Hello guys, you guys might think im just a salty loser. I might be.

Given all the events that have happened regarding the situation with bots playing PLO I have a very high reason to belive the player 7Soulriper7 is a bot playing at PLO50.

This guy might aswell be the best plo player ever.

He plays 12 tables at a time. Has little to no reaction time and plays everyhand perfect to what other people ranges are. The guy has yet to respond to all attempts i try to talk to him. His strategy rellies on calling and making small bets. He plays 30/20/7. Any expirienced plo player knows that its close to imposible playing 9+ tables of plo profitably. because the energy required to pay attention at all the hands that are happening over that many talbes is extremlly hard. That's why i am very suspicious of this guy. I have yet to see him make a mistake. I might be wrong and he is the best plo player ever in the world, but why play small satkes though????

Anyone has had any expirience with this player?

He plays on Pokerstars

Message Stars support

How many hands do you have on him?
Can you send me some of his stats?

And yes, write Stars asap

that's not such a surprise if he plays that many tables, bot or not.

i played with him, he is good but i dont think he is a bot(small sample so wont be usefull for you Grethe.... Charly played quite a lot lately on plo50, he might have some bigger sample on him)

bot cant crush good plo50 regs, except if its a same group of bots sharing cards like last time and seems like thats not what you are thinking

provide some hands, weird spots, at least some proof... its really easy to call out someone as a bot without any evidence

I have about 1.2K hands on him. I don't have any real proof except my gut feeling that something is off. I already did contact support and they are looking into it. This is a first for me, I might just be paranoid. He is too dam good to be playing that many tables. Either way if I am wrong and he is not a bot there is nothing wrong with being too cautious this days.

idk about this one

Not impossible. A bot that is playing that many tables at once would likely get figured out quicker than one that was just playing 3 or 4.

Multiple screens and a standard strategy make this fairly plausible. Omaha is a fairly straight forward game at the lower limits where you don't have to do a lot of deep levels of thinking.

I never respond to anyone.

Seems legit.

If he is playing tight, but raising often, his above strategy fits in with this model. 3 bet is pretty standard. Lots of people playing this style.

At the lower limits its much easier to auto pilot situations and just make standard plays. The higher amount of tables brings in more variance, but you can still be profitable. I've done plenty of 8+ multi tabling PLO on stars, I opted to play 2-4 because I find it more fun to not just auto click buttons.

He may have developed a style that is perfect for the limit he is at, and be perfectly happy doing what he is doing. Some people have no aspirations to move up in stakes.


There is nothing wrong with being suspicious and you're doing all the right things to make sure that he is a real person. There are definitely some good points that are different from the "usual" PLO player.

Let us know what stars comes back with, and thank you for the heads up.

you think 1 bot can crush good reg at plo50(someone thats winning 7+bb/100)? why do you think so


how much bb/100 can that bot achieve

I think at zoom it would be possible. Even the good regs have exploitable tendencies because of the folding / not paying as much attention nature of that format. Positional advantage and a solid set of built in rules and raise / call / fold scenarios could see a positive profit line.

Would actually be a very interesting coding project.

A Brazilian account played almost every day through 2016 untill early 2017 at PLO25-PLO100 on Stars.

Over 350k hands it beat those stakes for 19bb/100. All of it 6max ring games.

Despite crushing the opposition, the account never moved up over PLO100 and stopped playing entirely from one day to another in february 2017

I cant prove it was a bot that got caught. Who knows what can happen to a legit account. But the probability of this account was cheating/botting is significant and that winrate is indeed very very high

can you give me a name of that brasilian player? tnx
was that bot sharing cards with other ones at the table? if yes i can see it having that wr with card sharing

i see your points, but i think that solid reg at plo50 can adjust better to bots tendencies and exploit it then the opposite

19bb winrate probably have only top regs(3-5) on plo50 with a lot of table selection
i might be wrong but i think that single bots are not good/sophisticated enough to be better then even the best regs at plo50

Yeah this was very suspicous to me as well, especially after he just suddenly stopped playing. If i'm not mistaken, he played pretty much exclusively PLO50(only had like a few thousand hands at 100PLO). Grinding day in day out at 50PLO w/ 20bb/100 winrate and never moving up, makes you wonder...

What was the sn of this brasilian player?

If you can't beat a bot at plo, quit.

Playing poker is fun though

Thanks to Grethes hard work 7Soulriper7 and 5 other predominantly eastern european accounts have been banned.

Bye bye to:

7soulriper7
Kickstarter4
Oshostak
menikagain
Kvboger
Orsaminora

What stake they played,what was their winrate?

They played plo50-400. Winrate between 5bb/100-11bb/100.

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had some time since I logged in to 2p2, otherwise I would had contributed with hands on 7soulriper7, have him on 3.2k hands with a winrate of 32.6 BB/100. Was also feeling that his playstyle was very weird compared to other regs.

Attention bot owners: You wanna own this game and never be caught?

All you have to do is get rid of russian PTR and you guys are set for life.
You'll get to run you dream money printing machines 24/7
Everybody know PS don't care about you guys playing and making that sweet rake.

If u don't wanna play against robots play at a casino.
It's 2019. Who plays online poker nowadays anyway?

Seriously though: We need PTR back guys!

I disagree.

??? Is he playing 9 tables zoom or what?