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02-19-2021 , 08:47 AM

CincyJoe0424

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Can anyone provide a good argument for choosing another bet size other than pot in plo if your going to bet. I have heard peoples reasons and none of them make more sense than my arguments for always betting pot. I understand changing your bet so you can bluff river for a decent sizing if betting pot on turn would make your river bet insignificant but any good reasons other than that? I’m interested

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02-19-2021 , 12:12 PM

DevWil

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It's probably in your book.

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02-19-2021 , 01:31 PM

PokerPlayingGamble

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nice try op, but you will have to write your bet sizing section yourself

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02-19-2021 , 06:04 PM

CincyJoe0424

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I have already written it. You probably won’t be able to change my mind as I have heard arguments before for different sizing. I am just new to two plus two and wanted to see the communities thoughts on the subject.

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02-19-2021 , 06:45 PM

InkyPoker

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Okay here's a reason: betting pot would require either you or the dealer to figure out the size of the pot, and maths is hard.

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02-19-2021 , 06:53 PM

Munga30

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Why not lay 1-2 of your arguments for always choosing pot-sized bets?

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02-19-2021 , 06:57 PM

CincyJoe0424

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Well it’s the dealers job to always know pot that’s why you tip. But three times the last bet plus everything else in the pot isn’t that hard. I want to hear some arguments for different sizes then I will give my counter arguments

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02-19-2021 , 10:17 PM

DevWil

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i generally like to bet about $3.50

i think most of the long-time 2p2ers will back me up on this

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02-20-2021 , 02:35 PM

Loctus

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Can anyone provide a good argument for choosing another bet size other than minbet in plo if your going to bet. I have heard peoples reasons and none of them make more sense than my arguments for always betting minimum. I understand changing your bet so you can bluff river for a small sizing if betting minimum on turn would make your river bet significant but any good reasons other than that? I’m interested

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02-21-2021 , 02:15 PM

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DevWil

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Well it’s the dealers job to always know the minbet that’s why you tip. But one times the big blind for the table isn’t that hard. I want to hear some arguments for different sizes then I will give my counter arguments

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02-21-2021 , 10:24 PM

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PokerPlayingGamble

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alright I will bite. we will want to bet less on lockdown boards such as three spades. this will give us a better price on our bluffs, make our opponents more likely to call when they are drawing slim or dead, and enable us to save money when behind. We can price out any draws with a small bet anyway since even a set is a substantial dog to fill up.

or we might want to use two sizings. a large sizing with the nuts / nut blocker, and a smaller sizing with smaller blockers and smaller flushes and / or straights.

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02-22-2021 , 12:17 AM

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DevWil

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okay so what's the dealer's job even then

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02-22-2021 , 02:13 PM

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InkyPoker

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To tell you the price of bitcoin before you decide whether to go all in.

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02-22-2021 , 02:23 PM

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DingusEgg

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I like to base all of my bet sizzing on what JNandez87 does and he has 33% 50% 75% and 100% on his bet slider so now I do too.

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02-22-2021 , 03:29 PM

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InkyPoker

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As a connoisseur, I have 30%, 50% 70%, and 150% instead to strike fear on nit regs watching my stream.

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02-22-2021 , 05:22 PM

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DingusEgg

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Originally Posted by InkyPoker

As a connoisseur, I have 30%, 50% 70%, and 150% instead to strike fear on nit regs watching my stream.

I'm thinking we expand upon the above, you could devote an entire book to it.

If you bet 30% on the flop
50% on the turn
70% on the river

that "adds" up to 150% of the pot bet

#plomath
#sklanskywho
#buymybook

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02-22-2021 , 11:29 PM

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illiterat

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Originally Posted by CincyJoe0424

I've written roughly 4.20k words about different bet sizings and their proper usage, however it's not EV positive for me to just tell you here for $0 so my opponents in my city can learn how to play against me. Feel free to send me $350 in crypto and I'll share them with you privately.

Also, seriously OP, speak to someone.

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02-24-2021 , 05:38 AM

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CincyJoe0424

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I have been playing poker longer than JNANDEZ and would happily play him heads up over live stream for bragging rights

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02-24-2021 , 04:27 PM

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DevWil

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I'm sure that one of the strongest human brands in PLO (quite possibly #1; top 2 with Galfond almost for sure, with third being pretty distant unless I'm forgetting someone) is desperate for the obviously huge publicity EV of dueling CincyJoe for nothingburger stakes

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02-24-2021 , 05:38 PM

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InkyPoker

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I thought you said you’d been a pro for 2 years.

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02-24-2021 , 09:47 PM

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CincyJoe0424

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I started playing poker in 2004 I believe JNANDEZ started in 2006

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02-24-2021 , 09:52 PM

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InkyPoker

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Wait I saw in another thread you've been playing poker for 5 years.

... did you not count skipped years?

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02-25-2021 , 01:00 AM

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illiterat

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Not sure Zynga counts as studying.

Also not a great look that you've been studying since 2004 and played full time for 5 years but aren't rolled to play 5/5 PLO.

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