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09-22-2018 , 02:38 PM
Hi all,

First time playing 1/2 PLO ($200-$700). Casino doesn't spread it that often. Thought I'd give it a whirl. Sit down with $460 but have missed a lot of flops and got rivered one hand holding nut straight versus middle set (AI OTT) so down to $350.

Two limps and hero raises AhAcKhTc to $20. This is hero's first time raising in over two hours. Three callers. Pot $76. Qc was exposed pre.

Flop: Ad-Qd-7h. Checked to hero who down bets $25. (Figured if I potted it I was announcing top set.) Got what I wanted: SB raises $100. Hero flats.

Pot: $276.

Turn: 8h. SB pots, hero jams. Standard?

Thanks,
DT

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 09-22-2018 at 02:44 PM.
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09-22-2018 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
reraise the flop
In hold em I would never 3! top set because it will just blow most Vs off their Hands. What’s the reason for reraising here?
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09-22-2018 , 04:04 PM
why wouldn't you want to reraise?
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09-23-2018 , 12:13 AM
Flop cbet bigger, you do not want people getting good prices to call with their draws especially when you don't block any diamonds. It is live poker they will call a full pot size bet with their weak 2pairs or flush draws. Online you might cbet halfpot here without diamonds (probably never under 30% multiway here) but $50+ or pot live would be the best play.

As played re-pot vs a raise, printing value vs 2ps / FDs top pair + FDs etc. We block wraps but if they have a wrap we are in good shape as well. Why let a turn come for cheaper and put yourself into a tough spot instead of pushing your equity. It is low stakes live PLO people aren't raise folding flop ever. As played standard to stackoff on turn
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09-23-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Flop cbet bigger, you do not want people getting good prices to call with their draws especially when you don't block any diamonds. It is live poker they will call a full pot size bet with their weak 2pairs or flush draws. Online you might cbet halfpot here without diamonds (probably never under 30% multiway here) but $50+ or pot live would be the best play.

As played re-pot vs a raise, printing value vs 2ps / FDs top pair + FDs etc. We block wraps but if they have a wrap we are in good shape as well. Why let a turn come for cheaper and put yourself into a tough spot instead of pushing your equity. It is low stakes live PLO people aren't raise folding flop ever. As played standard to stackoff on turn
How big is your equity advantage vs. his GII range?
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09-24-2018 , 04:15 AM
I'm so confused lol, we have the nuts + nut redraw with nothing left behind, right?
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09-24-2018 , 06:11 AM
What would you do if the turn is a diamond and he pots?
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09-24-2018 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Czech Rays
What would you do if the turn is a diamond and he pots?
fold
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09-24-2018 , 07:27 AM
It was more a rhetorical question to OP.
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09-25-2018 , 07:53 AM
Just reraise the flop. Lots of draws that may kill ur action or even push you out of the pot holding the best hand in later streets.
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09-25-2018 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
In hold em I would never 3! top set because it will just blow most Vs off their Hands. What’s the reason for reraising here?
In Omaha sb will never 3bet bluff here,r at least he has some draw that he is willing to go all in.In case he has lower straight you will lose action if flush card hit.I prefer betting at least 1/2pot flop,you re basically giving correct odds to call to bare flushdraw.
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09-25-2018 , 10:33 AM
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In Omaha sb will never 3bet bluff here,
Villain's flop check-raise is not a 3bet. It is a 2bet.
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09-25-2018 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
In hold em I would never 3! top set because it will just blow most Vs off their Hands. What’s the reason for reraising here?
Because you get them to blow off their entire stack on a draw.
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09-28-2018 , 01:51 AM
Bet 50 on the flop, so then once he raises you can get it in. If you were really deep you can do these kinds of moves where you just call to trap (I wouldn't on a flush board though), but with pot sized bet behind just get it in. So many cards can come on the turn where you don't know if you're winning anymore. As a rule you shouldn't really slowplau in omaha all that much.
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10-01-2018 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
In hold em I would never 3! top set because it will just blow most Vs off their Hands. What’s the reason for reraising here?
1) We know we are getting it in good
2) Reraise/fold is not what you want from villain but at least you get him off whatever equity he has. Maybe a minor point but also could be more significant with some parts of his range
3) Reraise/fold is pretty unlikely anyway - PLO is very different to NLHE
4) Important - I can think of plenty of turn cards that can scare both of you off putting more chips in the pot. Get it in now. His range includes two pair and lower sets, some wraps where you block his outs / will split sometimes anyway: not getting his stack in now before the scare card hits is really missing potential value
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