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Old 05-15-2017, 10:58 PM   #1
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AA98ds vs fish

This donky, donks into me and I'm not sure if my line is too aggressive. How would you play this?

Microgaming - €0.20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 264.4 BB (VPIP: 29.58, PFR: 16.40, 3Bet Preflop: 4.86, Hands: 2,198)
BTN: 69.3 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 28)
SB: 84.05 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 37.04, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 27)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.28, PFR: 6.03, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 118)
Hero (UTG): 374.2 BB
MP: 288.1 BB (VPIP: 41.72, PFR: 28.28, 3Bet Preflop: 11.50, Hands: 291)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A 9 8

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 6 5 3
SB bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 32 BB, SB raises to 80.55 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 48.55 BB

Turn: (169.1 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (169.1 BB, 2 players) 2

SB shows K 5 2 5 (Full House, Fives full of Sixes)
(Pre 36%, Flop 61%, Turn 90%)
Hero shows A A 9 8 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 39%, Turn 10%)
SB wins 166.1 BB
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:41 PM   #2
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

I think when he bet 3bets you are behind but t
you have enough equity to GII. Dunno about the flop raise we don't have an enormous draw to be favored here vs. his GII range and raising also folds out his weak hands if he docks a lot
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:52 PM   #3
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

Looks fine
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:15 PM   #4
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

Take a note about his line
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:09 PM   #5
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

I think it was well played. And unlucky in the end.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:28 AM   #6
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

why did you raise flop? He won't fold anything better and we have position. Why is raising flop better than calling?
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:01 PM   #7
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

Pot raising flop is kinda bad, raise smaller to make sure that he doesn't fold his dominated draws. If hes the type of fish that only pots with nutted made hands, meaning no wider than 74 or 42 with the caveat that he wont fold either to a raise, obviously just call.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:22 PM   #8
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

I probably flat given villain description
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:08 PM   #9
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Whaaat?? Pretty bad overall. He just potted into us
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:28 AM   #10
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

My reasoning at the time was that he was super wide and likely stacking off with all kinds of weak hands too. In a worst case scenario I 'd still have ~40% and so I thought I might as well just get the money in, there's also a chance he folds out something with a little equity which is still a good result.

Ok, so you guys are generally saying just flat call flop, lets say the turn bricks and he donks again, do we just fold to the turn bet? Hypothetically let's sayt he turn was the 6h and another situation where the turn was say Tc.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:28 AM   #11
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If he donks again full pot I fold any non d or 8. If he checks on a 6 I bluff if he can fold to 2 barrels and check back if he can't. T I check back
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:35 PM   #12
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Why do y think that he is superwide here?
What kind of bluffs/semi bluffs you think he has? You block mainly all draw type hands(not a few, just all) You have like 40%vs gii range and he says Thank you with his bluffs and folds to your gto smashed button raise size.
Its just a supereasy call.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:30 PM   #13
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

Are you talking about the flop or the turn Naggeri2
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:41 PM   #14
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Flop call
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Old 05-20-2017, 10:08 PM   #15
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

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Why do y think that he is superwide here?
What kind of bluffs/semi bluffs you think he has? You block mainly all draw type hands(not a few, just all) You have like 40%vs gii range and he says Thank you with his bluffs and folds to your gto smashed button raise size.
Its just a supereasy call.
He has 100% vpip and plays like an idiot, so I figured he's very wide. I think I have more than 40% vs this particular villain. I don't disagree with you though!

Thinking about this some more, I like the advice here, as pointed out I block several straight and flush draws. It is much less likely he has a draw, flatting def better in this spot and just evaluate turn.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:36 PM   #16
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Re: AA98ds vs fish

With this type of fish, I think he is super wide here, but not in the way you think. He has his legit hands that do pretty well getting it in vs your hand, and then he has total air like KQT7 no diamond or bad 1 pair hands like JT83. I'm generally not planning on folding on too many turns, but all raising flop does is take the total air out of his range (which he's probably going to pot again on blank turns). The hands you want to get it in on the flop against, he's check raising or check calling those.
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Old 05-21-2017, 01:08 AM   #17
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With this type of fish, I think he is super wide here, but not in the way you think. He has his legit hands that do pretty well getting it in vs your hand, and then he has total air like KQT7 no diamond or bad 1 pair hands like JT83. I'm generally not planning on folding on too many turns, but all raising flop does is take the total air out of his range (which he's probably going to pot again on blank turns). The hands you want to get it in on the flop against, he's check raising or check calling those.
Good point mate.
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