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03-19-2018 , 04:53 PM

sdclaw

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 131

Villain was probably 50 vpip 30 pfr over an hour of play at a full ring 5-8 players. Weve been 3 handed now for two orbits and hes played every hand. Hero is on the tight side but has been beating V up the last few laps on a mini rush. Hero has $94 and villain has me covered. Villain straddles pre, BB is short stacked.

Hero raises to 1.50, SB calls, V raises to 5.00, hero?? Hero repots to 18.00, SB folds, V calls

Pot 37.50
Flop 10h 10c 9d (Hero has spades and hearts)
Hero??????

Hero bets pot, V shoves, Pot is 75.00 and hero has $40 remaining. Hero???

Thoughts on any street appreciated.

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03-19-2018 , 06:28 PM

poloplaya1414

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,972

Not understanding the preflop action. Are you in SB or BB? Based on the order, I assume you're SB?

If so, preflop is standard. I would check the flop with the intention of peeling one. Betting here basically turns your hand into a bluff when we should have plenty of equity. If you are, a PSB is certainly too big.

As played, fold to the shove. You're usually in terrible shape. and you'd need to have a very specific read on villain to continue.

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03-19-2018 , 06:51 PM

sdclaw

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Was in SB as i was first to act after LAS. Honestly i didn't notice the straddle or i would have gone 4bb or pot pre. My read here was I had been slapping him around (won 3 heads up pots in last 4 hands) and I knew he had spew tendencies. Do you think he ends up with a broadway pair plus straight draw type hand often enough here to call shove? My feeling was the paired board wasnt ideal but it hit such a low percentage of his hands (hes on almost any 4 cards at this point) and so many turn cards are scare cards for me I was best committing OTF.

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03-19-2018 , 07:32 PM

poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by sdclaw

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My feeling was the paired board wasnt ideal but it hit such a low percentage of his hands (hes on almost any 4 cards at this point)

Even if he is literally 4betting any 4 cards (and I highly doubt that he is), he still has a 17% chance of having a T by pure luck.

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and so many turn cards are scare cards for me I was best committing OTF.

Actually more turn cards are good for you than bad for you. Any A, J, T, 6 or heart improves your hand, and any 2-5 is neutral, so that's 70% of the deck you don't really need to worry about.

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03-19-2018 , 10:16 PM

sdclaw

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Originally Posted by poloplaya1414

Problem is that the times you are ahead, it's not by much, and when you are beat, you're crushed.

QJJ8 is flipping against you. Even QJJ2 has 36% equity.

On the other hand, if he has T9xx, T87x, QJTx, you have 20% equity or less.

So he needs to be spazzing a pretty high % of the time for you to profitably call.

Even if he is literally 4betting any 4 cards (and I highly doubt that he is), he still has a 17% chance of having a T by pure luck.

Actually more turn cards are good for you than bad for you. Any A, J, T, 6 or heart improves your hand, and any 2-5 is neutral, so that's 70% of the deck you don't really need to worry about.

So lets use some gorilla math...

Call it 20% he has a ten by accident or 99 and I'm crushed.

Is he folding half his remaining range to a pot sized bet? I think he is.

So hes calling tbe remaing 2 in five times with pairs plus draws that Im ahead of and block.

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03-20-2018 , 09:57 AM

poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by sdclaw

I mean if you literally think he's 4-betting any 4 cards preflop, sure bet/gii is fine.

But if his 4bet range is even a bit limited to say 30% of hands, I don't see how this even close.

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03-20-2018 , 11:27 AM

DingusEgg

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Originally Posted by sdclaw

Hero bets pot, V shoves, Pot is 75.00 and hero has $40 remaining. Hero???

Pot is $150 you can win after your pot bet and villians shove.

If we assume he has a random Txxx hand, you're still 25% to win. If we get super specific with the hands, then yes, you are in terrible shape, but he plays too wide for us to polarize his hand down to a very few select combinations. Given the situation you created with your pot size flop bet, you can't fold to his shove.

In regards to the actual streets, I'm not sure what your plan is with the TT9 flop and a pot bet. If he doesn't have a draw or T he's folding. If he has a T or draw he's getting it in. You basically created a crappy situation where you're forced to call.

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03-21-2018 , 11:56 AM

sdclaw

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Originally Posted by DingusEgg

I struggle particularly w AA hands in these spots. I look at the SPR and get either fit or fold. In this particular hand I felt OK as villain had been playing everyhand for the last 3-4 orbits and I've seen him 3b garbage pre.

I did call the shove and he turned over KKJx with a 1 bd suit. We shall not discuss the turn card.

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03-21-2018 , 12:10 PM

Oink

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Hand is fine. Sizing on the flop is prolly not good but whatever. Bet/gii with a SPR of 2 is absolutely standard here and as long as you bet/gii it prolly matters very little if you bet 1/3, 1/2 or full pot. Dont bet/fold that is just LOL horrible. Checking back might have some merit against particular villains who have particular tendencies and who will get silly overbluffy. But I would need a very special read to do that and it would be in order to call down any run out.

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03-21-2018 , 02:19 PM

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DingusEgg

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Originally Posted by sdclaw

I did call the shove and he turned over KKJx with a 1 bd suit. We shall not discuss the turn card.

Stars decided that it would be good for me to lose 5 x 90/10 allin on the flop situations last week. We've all been there, so no worries

Once you start looking at situations like this where you got your cards in against a favourable matchup, you will care a lot less about the final result and more about how you came to the conclusion to do a particular action.

Focus more on your choices and decisions, the results will work themselves out in the long run.

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