Hello,

I played a session where I went broke everytime I got it in with AA after 3-betting them pre flop. Do I have to be more careful? How would you play these hands Do i have to go broke?

PLO 25
Villain and I always have 40bb to 80bb

AA 1:

D raise, I 3 bet and flop comes Qd 3s 3s.

I have As Ad Qh Kh and I lead flop half pot, then go all in after re raise from Villain.

He has 2d 3c 4c 5s and wins.

Any value in betting 1/4 pot and re-evaluating? I see him having lots of draws though... not sure how I can get away

AA 2:

Ac Ah Kd 2c
vs
9s 9h 7h 5h

Flop: 2h 9c 8d

Again raises action on the flop and I go broke

AA 3:

Ac Ac Kh 3h
vs
As Jh Jc 10d

Flop: Js 9h 2h

Again raises action on flop and I go broke

AA 4:

Ac Ad Qs 3h
vs
Ah Jh 7d 8s

Flop: Qh 9s 4h

Again raises action on flop and I go broke

AA 5:

As Ad Qs 5s
vs
Jc Jd Qd 7c

Flop: 4s 8c 10c

Again raises action on flop and I go broke

Write to support that the deck is rigged.

are you 3betting hands other than aces?

some of these are coolers, some you might be able to bet fold.

if you are indeed right around the 40bb -> 80bb, then you should be going broke in these spots a ton.

I do 3 bet other hands than AA. But loosing all these hands in one session makes me think I am playing AA too aggressively especially on connected boards. Bet folding could be an option on some of these hands

Run your hands through an equity calculator to figure out if it's actually a losing play or if you're just getting the bad side of variants. Most of the time and PLO when you get it all in preflop with the best hand you are at Max a 60% favorite.

You can play aces aggressively or passively postflop to keep others guessing, but usually one overpair that doesn't improve on the flop is going to be behind

Especially since he got two aces of clubs in #3

Hand #3 is your only cooler since you have the flush draw. All the rest are close decisions and depend a lot on how deep you actually are. There's a pretty big difference between 40 and 80bb. At 40 they're probably all calls after you bet.

This might be a little bit useful but if he doesn't know what kind of ranges to use for villain he will get incorrect results. And I'm guessing he has no idea what kind of hands people are raising in these spots based on the fact that he had to ask the questions.

This just looks like typical PLO variance. It happens.

If had no idea of ranges I would not be 2k up in PLO after a small deposit of 100e. Going all the way to 10k. Moving up to PLO 50 when I hit 2.5k.

Thanks for the advice.

I suffer this a bit aswell found myself losing a lot the same way but I am afraid of being exploited bet folding flops just because someone raises me. Are we always supposed to 3bet cbet fold if we get raised on flop and don't have top set? It's a cruel game

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Not many people try to bluff-raise you off AA on a paired flop. Especially if you're known to never fold aces postflop. I would make it as a default assumption that they're not bluffing unless you have reason to believe otherwise.

Just play the nuts...Problem solved.Move on.

Are you HU going to the flop in all of these scenarios?

Keep in mind that the SPR is getting low when playing 40-80BB in 3B pots.

Also most of these AAxx hands are marginal and you're not hitting the flop hard with them.

This was a "**** happens" session for you and that`s it. Espacially when the SPR was low you had not many options than gii. If you adjust now than it can happen that you fold to much on the flop and that will decrease your winrate for AA.

You should have a look at your EV for AA over a bigger samplesize. If your AA is too low, than you have to rethink.

I don' t know how many times you have to make the same mistake over and over again until you realize that you play with AAxx isn't really good. Just wait for better spots to get your money in..And don't let tell you that you play was correct EV based. It was not!

Maybe you could brake down hand by hand how op should have played the hands to help him to get better...

Ok I try
First I would buy-in for 100BB.
First hand I would just check/call and maybe fold turn if he bet..I don't know if this is a leak, but most villians don't bluff much on this level, so he has to have a 3 there most of the time..We beat only KKxx and some random Qxxx hands and going to lose to all other 3xxx stuff...I guess if we are oop and we check to him on the tutn after c/c the flop viallian is checking the turn behind more often than betting with KKxx and Qxxx hands. He is betting the turn for sure with 3xxx hands...
And the last hand. Flop is really ugly for us to continue. We don't have to go broke there without any clubs and any blockers in our hand..The flop fits villians preflop calling range more likely. I check fold there without regerets.
In hand 4 I guess I would go broke too.

AA1

You GII and go broke most of the time here, it's tough but you have nut spade blocker and top set blocker. Realistically how many3's are in V range? More info on V would be nice because if he is a total rock I could see a fold here. Otherwise just got to GII

AA2

I think you could fold here, again, depending on position and image that both you and V have. However, on a wet board like this I think an argument could be made for folding.

AA3

Personally, never folding GL and GG.

AA4

I think I am check/calling here or just floating if in position and revaluating on the turn. Obviously the 10 and the 8 hit alot of V range and you have no club blockers. I dont think you have alot of fold equity here, so just check call and see what happens on the turn.

Are you playing super shallow? I don't understand why you are being forced to GII on the flop so often.

Either way, nice post, keep em coming!