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AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise

04-29-2021 , 04:22 AM
    PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: $50.00 (100 bb)
    SB: $47.63 (95.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): $55.96 (111.9 bb)
    UTG: $37.99 (76 bb)
    MP: $98.47 (196.9 bb)
    CO: $116.29 (232.6 bb)

    SB posts $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A A 6 Q
    3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $3.75

    Flop: ($11.25, 2 players) 7 5 J
    Hero bets $5.34, BTN raises to $26.71, Hero raises to $50.46 and is all-in, BTN calls $17.79 and is all-in

    Turn: ($100.25, 2 players) K

    River: ($100.25, 2 players) 4

    Results: $100.25 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: 7 5 J K 4

    Hero shows A A 6 Q: (One Pair, Aces)
    (Pre 65%, Flop 18%, Turn 30%)

    BTN shows J J 7 7: (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
    (Pre 35%, Flop 82%, Turn 70%)

    BTN wins $98.25


    Villian seems to have a set or a big draw, is this a b/f spot or can we go for it?
    AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
    04-29-2021 , 06:25 AM
    With such limited board interaction we can probably just check the flop.
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    04-29-2021 , 09:22 AM
    As a 3bet aggresor oop I've learned we should be cbetting about 90% of the time. I like the sizing on flop but being 2bet pot would raise alarm bells. I'd have to assume we are up against a set, maybe a wrap on the 75 (although you block the 6) or a bluff or overpair but I feel they'd just call. Any reads on villain? Fold to cbet %? RFI from btn %? May also be useful to know your 3bet%

    tbh I'm leaning toward bet/fold as it's a pretty dry board but depends on reads from villain.

    Last edited by tightywhity; 04-29-2021 at 09:34 AM.
    AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
    04-29-2021 , 01:59 PM
    On these dryish type flops just pot and gii, no need to have 2 bet sizings. Put yourself in villains shoes, is it easier to play against a pot size bet or 1/2 pot?
    AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
    04-29-2021 , 04:43 PM
    On the lower limits think playing bet fold flop is fine.

    Think on the more aggressive stakes we better of checking.
    AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
    04-29-2021 , 05:02 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
      PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
      Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

      BTN: $50.00 (100 bb)
      SB: $47.63 (95.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): $55.96 (111.9 bb)
      UTG: $37.99 (76 bb)
      MP: $98.47 (196.9 bb)
      CO: $116.29 (232.6 bb)

      SB posts $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A A 6 Q
      3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $3.75

      Flop: ($11.25, 2 players) 7 5 J
      Hero bets $5.34, BTN raises to $26.71, Hero raises to $50.46 and is all-in, BTN calls $17.79 and is all-in

      Turn: ($100.25, 2 players) K

      River: ($100.25, 2 players) 4

      Results: $100.25 pot ($2.00 rake)
      Final Board: 7 5 J K 4

      Hero shows A A 6 Q: (One Pair, Aces)
      (Pre 65%, Flop 18%, Turn 30%)

      BTN shows J J 7 7: (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
      (Pre 35%, Flop 82%, Turn 70%)

      BTN wins $98.25


      Villian seems to have a set or a big draw, is this a b/f spot or can we go for it?
      Check flop. I probably call a pot bet here and see if I can pick up equity on the turn, if not dump it if he bets again.

      In this example, Ks comes, you now have a gutter, a blocker to the low straight, and a flush draw with your overpair and I'm more inclined to get stacks in then. But on the flop, you are at best even, if not a big dog, so why play a big pot there? If turn comes out ugly, it's easy to fold and lose a minimum amount.

      Overplaying aces when your opponent easily puts you on aces is how you lose a lot of money in this game.
      AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
      04-30-2021 , 01:35 AM
      I agree with Tom Collins. When you bet flop and he pot raises you, he's obviously ready to gii at that point. He's ready to put 45$ in there to win 10$, knowing you 3 bet preflop. What do you think is the worst hand he would possibly do this? Something like a pair (on the board) and a straight draw? Maybe? Even there you're not a huge favorite- im on my phone so too lazy to plug anything in.

      If you saw this guy doing this sort of thing all the time - just jamming dry flops after calling 3 bets then maybe you take a stand but in general here, id have no confidence my AA is good in this spot and even if it sometimes is, its not by much and I'd rather wait for a better spot.
      AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
      04-30-2021 , 08:23 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by viggie79
      I agree with Tom Collins. When you bet flop and he pot raises you, he's obviously ready to gii at that point. He's ready to put 45$ in there to win 10$, knowing you 3 bet preflop. What do you think is the worst hand he would possibly do this? Something like a pair (on the board) and a straight draw? Maybe? Even there you're not a huge favorite- im on my phone so too lazy to plug anything in.

      If you saw this guy doing this sort of thing all the time - just jamming dry flops after calling 3 bets then maybe you take a stand but in general here, id have no confidence my AA is good in this spot and even if it sometimes is, its not by much and I'd rather wait for a better spot.
      Would we not lose less money by 1/2 pot bet and fold to the re-raise vs if we check and villain bets we will be calling with the overpair or are you folding the over pair here? If we go check-check villain may pick up extra outs as well
      AA - 2bdfd vs. potraise Quote
      04-30-2021 , 10:49 AM
      Fair point. Villian may pick up extra outs if it goes xx but we may also.
      This board missed us and I think it misses our range in general so its hard to look very strong here. Like it seems like a great spot for villian to raise a small cbet and try and take it down right there.

      I'm not strongly opposed to the smallish flop bet but I find myself checking oop flops more and more lately. If we x and villain puts out a small bet I'm calling to see what the turn brings and also if villain keeps firing. If they bet pot, I'm thinking pretty hard about call/fold and deciding probably based on whatever info I have on the villian - probably leaning on fold because there just aren't a ton of good turns for us.

      I should also point out that these spots (3bet pre with AAxx) i frequently feel lost in. Guessing I'm not alone.
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      05-02-2021 , 04:58 PM
      Way too deep on the flop. No blockers, not enough bd equity.
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