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4bet pot - should villain be jamming here? 4bet pot - should villain be jamming here?

06-25-2018 , 10:27 AM
https://play.globalpoker.com/poker-c...4b05159c53e7b1

I basically flopped him crushed - he had 22% equity - although he didn't know that - i have to imagine this flop is horrible for his range and great for mine.

Should he still be jamming this flop or check / giving up?

I mean it kinda sucks to get in 27% of your stack in and check fold, but my range has him dominated. I'm never 3betting low run downs and hands like TT88. My only 3bet/call in my range are going to be KKAx AKQJ and KQJT type hands. Maybe 9TJQ and all of these have him crushed except the KKAx. Also the KKAx hand Jams pre some of the time SB vs BB.

The AKQJ type hands are 48% and KQJT with out the flush draw is going to be 61%. I am on the fence here

We are both regs - I play with villain a lot - we both multi table and are on daily so he should know my range.
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06-25-2018 , 10:36 AM
Not even close jamming is the correct play.
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06-25-2018 , 01:35 PM
Unless villain is only raising AA from the SB you have some serious leaks if you aren't ever 3b low rundowns here or hands like TT88.

Also villain is ahead or not that far behind some of that range you mentioned that you have anyway.... i feel like you have to be trolling here.
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06-25-2018 , 05:08 PM
V made correct play given stack sizes. If SPR>2, there are merits for checking.
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06-25-2018 , 06:30 PM
HU I think even at SPR 2-3 bet-all in is the only play.
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06-25-2018 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
I mean it kinda sucks to get in 27% of your stack in and check fold, but my range has him dominated. I'm never 3betting low run downs and hands like TT88. My only 3bet/call in my range are going to be KKAx AKQJ and KQJT type hands. Maybe 9TJQ and all of these have him crushed except the KKAx. Also the KKAx hand Jams pre some of the time SB vs BB.
Still a stack off against that range.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
2,187,760 trials (Exhaustive)
board: 9Q2
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Ac5c4sAd39.21% 856,5992,620
(AKQJ-,AKQT-,AKJT-,AQJT-):xxJ+),AKK:xx!xxyy60.79% 1,328,5412,620

(GII equity is a bit lower if you fold hands that do poorly against AA, but it doesn't have a big effect because there is so dead money.)

Way more important: that range is 1.5% of all hands, which is pretty ridiculous. You are leaking so much elsewhere it's not worth discussing whether villain is making a mistake in 4-bet pots against you.
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06-26-2018 , 10:07 AM
You flop the absolute turbo nuts and cooler the **** out of the guy and you still have the audacity to question his play?!?!?!

Check your privilege
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06-26-2018 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic
Unless villain is only raising AA from the SB you have some serious leaks if you aren't ever 3b low rundowns here or hands like TT88.

Also villain is ahead or not that far behind some of that range you mentioned that you have anyway.... i feel like you have to be trolling here.
Ya perhaps I should also 3bet a little wider but i feel my 3bet is very tight against a sb open - I just feel like people open the SB pretty tight as it sucks playing OOP.

So once you 4bet are you just jamming almost all flops 100bb deep or once 30% of your stack goes in? This is one of the worst ones you can flop - maybe monotone board or TJQ?

I heard somewhere way back in the day that someone said once you pet 30% of your stack pre flop in omaha it's essentially an all in. Not sure I agree with that - thoughts?

My normal 3bet range is around 10% - it's just tight vs SB opens. I also never really limp or over limp. Leak?
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06-26-2018 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
My normal 3bet range is around 10% - it's just tight vs SB opens. I also never really limp or over limp. Leak?
Just get the plomatrix its 2018 nobody should be wondering what to do preflop anymore the answers are out there
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06-26-2018 , 08:41 PM
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So once you 4bet are you just jamming almost all flops 100bb deep or once 30% of your stack goes in? This is one of the worst ones you can flop - maybe monotone board or TJQ?
At an SPR of just over 1 I am stacking off very liberally. Any flop where a straight or flush is not possible is an auto stack off, and I'm jamming a lot of boards where there is a possible straight or flush as well. This flop isn't perfect, but it is more than acceptable. What I'm not doing is creating a massive pot and then check folding because I don't have the nuts.
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