Ok so this is a pretty common topic for discussion,but id really like to hear what you do and why.

You open some trash Aces,say AA47off or AA29ss and you get 3bet by the SB.
For some reason,online i auto snap 4bet and that prolly not always the best move,but multitabling takes a toll on me sometimes.

Yesterday the same exact scenario happened in a live game and i put much more thinking into my decision.
Vs a tight 3betting range(AA,premium Kings,double suited rundowns) is it better to just flat in case a)he has the same hand and i can push him off on certain boards?
b)he might fold KK to a 4bet but will gii dominated on alot of boards if i flat?

Is it optimal to just 4bet vs someone wholl 3bet(and call the 4bet) with 10% range+dominated high cards(AKQ5ds etc)?

What do you do in these spots?

I like to flat it and take advantage of the position postflop..We are not that big of favorite especially, if our garbage-Aces are not suited..Also is good not to play autopilot if we multitabling. Take some creative lines sometimes and you will see wonder happen...if your hit your A on flop rarely someone put your on topset there..

If you're going to flat aces, I think junk AA are the worst candidates to flat with since they will have such poor postflop playability.. I disagree with the above, and think any EV advantage you think you gain by flatting IP will be instantly negated by the amount of mistakes and tricky spots you'll get into, and turn out to be very -EV in the end.

This, imo is the appropriate way to look at these spots in Omaha... I have spent a great deal of time thinking about it due to how frustrating it can be for a recovering Holdem player to be so lost with aces so often. If I flat AA+any 2 side cards in position, which is very rare... it’s almost always going to be a double suited, good to great connectedness type hand for the purpose of disguising strength. The only other reason I might flat IP is if I’m very deep and villain is as well.

OOP, I think it’s basically always a 3!/4!/5!, GII while you have an (albeit thin) equity edge, and I may even find a fold if not HU in pot.

if you are roughly 100bb deep, any kind of AA hand is an easy 4bet. you have to think what kind of SPR you can create with your 4bet, if you are deeper this can be a problem.

Agree,and the most important question is how deep you are.In 100bb games

I think it s clear that 4bet is the most profitable move.When there was deep ante tables with 250bb on Stars and generally deep games 4betting when you

create spr of aprox. 5 can lead to some really awkward spots so not sure what s the best.I ll just say that folding junk Aa specially in multiway pots or in Sb

facing a 3bet(250bb deep games) should be considered at least.

What makes me really considering to flat the junk Aces IP is all the terrible flops(and there will be many),where even with a tiny SPR,i still gotta prolly fold.


If the flop comes somethin like 789ss,KQ9,8JT etc etc,i still might have to fold if villain donk jams cause all of his decent 3betting hands that can handle a 4bet will nail those flops,and even some junk that kinda connected to those kinds of board will still have great equity.

Say villain is a ****** and 3B/Calls 4B w K457ss from SBvs Hero who is BTN and has AA47off.If the K457 hand donk jams the KQT flop,its still basically flipping vs my naked AA/no draw.On the other hand,if he has a legit 3b/calls 4bet hand then im proly drawing close to dead.

OOP assuming 100bb stacks,a 4 bet is pretty much a no brainer vs anyone,but just blindly 4Betting IP i think im trading my positional edge(with the potential to gii terrible OTF due to being "commited" ) for a small 2-4% preflop equity edge.

Maybe I should listen to you guys.
I flat today and went broke on this flop vs 74/26...

But see,this is a perfect example of when to jam the Aces pre,cause you got so much dead money from the 3rd player(the limper),so if he folds vs your 4b jam then you got even more incentive to ship it pre.

As played,with no reads on villain id say you correctly called the flop jam cause villain has so little 5s in his range,except from some AA5x or KK5x.

Most of the time youll be chopping with other Aces in this spot,or youll be crushing KKxx or AQQx,not to mention people who squueze rundowns and will jam these low paired flops with T or Q high even multiway,hoping that everyone puts them on AA and folds.

So well played post imo,ship it pre cause of dead money.

It all depends on the SPR scenarios you create on the flop.

If you can create a scenario where SPR < 1 on the flop, it's rarely a mistake.

If you have trash Aces when a bit deeper, then you'd rather play a pot with a higher flop SPR to create implied odds as you have a very polarized hand. For example, with hands like AA27r you'd prefer to flat and create flop SPRs of 12+ than say 4-betting and creating a flop SPR of 4.

Obv there can be other considerations, such as dead money and super rec players who will 5-bet shove worse, but in general I think the above applies.

How deep are you?

4bet in most cases.