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Old 02-10-2019, 08:16 PM   #1
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3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

Hand 1:
1/2 5 bring in PLO. UTG raises to 15. UTG+1 3bets to 50. One caller. Hero in CO has AAJ7 double suited. Hero raises to 150 (300 effective). UTG folds. UTG+1 calls. Flop comes Q106 no flush draw. UTG+1 checks. Hero’s shoves. Villain calls. Any issues with raise pre. Flop always a shove unless it a really scary coordinated board? Guy had shown to play lots of hands and try to make moves. I wanted to lower SPR for shove on most boards that aren’t super connected. Any issues with this line against loose spewy player? Had shown to stack off with JJ83 on a flop of 765. Also stack off against a player with 10975 single suit and get it all in pre.

Hand 2:
Hero has KK54 with one suit. UTG raises to 10 in 1/2 5 bring in. 2 callers. Hero calls. Button calls. Flop comes AK2 rainbow. Original raiser check then Checks to hero. Hero bets pot. Button raises pot. Folds to hero. Hero? Haven’t been playing long but villain is a little bit of a tight aggressive player. Amount of opponents with call pre. I am thinking it a rundown hand that could have a wrap. Possibly flush draw or two pair. Is it bad if I folded here?

Hand 3:

Hero has AAK6 with K6s. One limp. Hero in HJ raises pot. And get 3 callers for a pot of 82. Flop comes KJ8 with 2 spades. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot. SB shoves all in. Hero? Is it bad if I folded here or should I stack off? If he does happen to have rundown with flush draw. I might have him dominated. Perhaps has straight and flush draws which I’m not doing terrible against. Think I’m a slight favorite. Could have a set of jacks. Bad fold?
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:02 PM   #2
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Re: 3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

Hand 1 - standard flop shove- I think you could've 4bet bigger pre to 170? Doubt it changes the play much but pot it next time, especially when peoples 4bet pre range is so narrow. I think you're stacking off on ANY flop based on SPR and being heads up.

Hand 2 - never fold in this scenerio. The fact that button didn't pot it with with a raiser and 3 callers ahead can pretty much eliminate any AAxx combo, maybe except for very dry AAxx combo. There are too many AKxx + A and broadway + A and wheel combo + 22xx in the button range for you to ever fold here (especially when you have straight equity too)

Hand 3 - If im reading this correctly, only hand you practically have no equity against is AKKx with nutted suit but its almost unlikely based on the fact that you have AAK6 and there is a king on the flop. The stack sizes matters, but assuming its standard 1/2/5 hand, ship as played.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:35 PM   #3
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Re: 3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

Hand 1:

That’s what I was thinking. If he is going to play tons of hands and stack off and want to gamble. I’ll isolate pre and decrease my SPR so I can shove any flop.

Hand 2:
Yeah I was a little worried but getting a raiser and no 3bet pot to squeeze I discounted AA. Figured I was up against a healthy draw hand against my pure equity that I should be stacking off.

Hand 3:

Sorry if I didn’t put it well. I have the K6 of spades with my aces. So when I have a top set blocker and aces and second nit flush draw. There’s not too many hands outside of AAxx with spades that have me crushed or AKKx with nut spades. I was thinking I should get it in here but I wasn’t so sure thinking he could have some good rundowns or sets. So you think I should just be shoving here? Also to start this hand we had about 300 effective stack sizes.

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Old 02-11-2019, 01:32 AM   #4
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Re: 3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

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Hand 1:
1/2 5 bring in PLO. UTG raises to 15. UTG+1 3bets to 50. One caller. Hero in CO has AAJ7 double suited. Hero raises to 150 (300 effective). UTG folds. UTG+1 calls. Flop comes Q106 no flush draw. UTG+1 checks. Hero’s shoves.Villain calls. Any issues with raise pre. Flop always a shove unless it a really scary coordinated board? Guy had shown to play lots of hands and try to make moves. I wanted to lower SPR for shove on most boards that aren’t super connected.
You should have made it $170. You are committed and shove or call any flop regardless of how "scary" it is (hint, there aren't any scary boards now).

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Hand 2:
Hero has KK54 with one suit. UTG raises to 10 in 1/2 5 bring in. 2 callers. Hero calls. Button calls. Flop comes AK2 rainbow. Original raiser check then Checks to hero. Hero bets pot. Button raises pot. Folds to hero. Hero? Haven’t been playing long but villain is a little bit of a tight aggressive player. Amount of opponents with call pre. I am thinking it a rundown hand that could have a wrap. Possibly flush draw or two pair. Is it bad if I folded here?
Depends on the player but I think you're excused for stacking off here usually.

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Hero has AAK6 with K6s. One limp. Hero in HJ raises pot. And get 3 callers for a pot of 82. Flop comes KJ8 with 2 spades. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot. SB shoves all in. Hero? Is it bad if I folded here or should I stack off? If he does happen to have rundown with flush draw. I might have him dominated. Perhaps has straight and flush draws which I’m not doing terrible against. Think I’m a slight favorite. Could have a set of jacks. Bad fold?
In most games I think it's a stack off.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:43 PM   #5
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Re: 3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

hand 2 I think we will see AA alot, as the best draw is an inside wrap and both AK and 22 are pretty unlikely. stack sizes are important here as well, if ppl r deep button could easily have flatted with his aces for deception. still u generally have to stack off here.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:22 PM   #6
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Re: 3 PLO Hands 1/2 5 bring in.

Some of the stacks were 500-600+ deep but the button and I were right around 300-350. I’m not sure if we would see aces too often. I think he doesn’t want to take it multiway unless he purely is passive and wants to set over set someone. I would think even the best hands are vulnerable. I think almost all aces would pot to isolate one or two players.
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