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2PLO - Awkward spot 2PLO - Awkward spot

08-01-2020 , 12:05 PM
Trying to iron out my bad habits after years of live play and spewy online play :P

History is too small a sample size to be meaningful
  • Are we happy with preflop, or is there ever a 4 bet there?
  • Flop bet size ok?
  • The second bullet in the turn, or does anyone every take a free card?
  • River bluff size? Could he ever be floating?

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 1814.5 BB
SB: 275.5 BB
BB: 78 BB
UTG: 118.5 BB
MP: 101 BB
Hero (CO): 281.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A Q 3

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 11.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 2 players) 2 K T
SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

Turn: (44 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, SB calls 18 BB

River: (80 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 54 BB, SB raises to 236 BB and is all-in, fold
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08-01-2020 , 01:55 PM
You can 4bet this but gonna have to fold to 5b's I think which feels like you're torching money when it happens

Bet bigger flop and turn considering what a monster hand you have and the big stacks

On the river you have like the nut worst hand possible to bluff with, since you hold all the cards you want your opponent to have in this spot when you plan on bluffing him, so you're unblocking his calling range
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08-01-2020 , 04:06 PM
Loctus hit most of the key points.

Sizing is all over the place on every street - small flop bet feels silly - we can use smaller sizing on more favorable textures (such as those that connect well with rundowns) but ktx is good for 3! range and villlain will continue against a small bet a ton.

Turn - options galore but since we chose a weird, small flop bet i will suggest betting larger (3/4 or more) with the objective of generating high fold equity. We should plan on being xred sometimes, as villain will pick up flush draws sometimes and also just have plenty of good ax and kx hands that want to protect equity.

River - i agree that giving up is super reasonable but when we bluff we want to think carefully about the sizing - most of our large bluffs should have useful blockers so if we do bluff this hand i would probably look at betting 1/4 to 1/2 psb, giving villain a chance to fold some weaker and medium strength hands
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08-01-2020 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
On the river you have like the nut worst hand possible to bluff with, since you hold all the cards you want your opponent to have in this spot when you plan on bluffing him, so you're unblocking his calling range
Thanks for pointing this out, its not something i considered. Will review my database for other bad river bluffs to see if the same applies.
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08-01-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Sizing is all over the place on every street - small flop bet feels silly - we can use smaller sizing on more favorable textures (such as those that connect well with rundowns) but ktx is good for 3! range and villlain will continue against a small bet a ton.

Turn - options galore but since we chose a weird, small flop bet i will suggest betting larger (3/4 or more) with the objective of generating high fold equity. We should plan on being xred sometimes, as villain will pick up flush draws sometimes and also just have plenty of good ax and kx hands that want to protect equity.

River - i agree that giving up is super reasonable but when we bluff we want to think carefully about the sizing - most of our large bluffs should have useful blockers so if we do bluff this hand i would probably look at betting 1/4 to 1/2 psb, giving villain a chance to fold some weaker and medium strength hands
I've been working on bet sizing, as i feel i lose alot of value with half and half plus size bets. In this case i went with 33-40% on both flop and turn. Agree the turn is too small.

Very good rationale on the river bet, thank you

Will have to keep working on bet sizing, as in the live games ive played its been a lot of pot pot pot
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08-02-2020 , 07:32 PM
Shamomaloma SLAMpot the flop. Or at least 20bb. And then slam 100% of turns when checked to, again at least 90% of the pot, assuming you missed.
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