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04-18-2017 , 06:12 PM
Preflop - Is 3Betting this out of the BB a decent play or should I have just called?

On the flop I chose to CBet because the board was so dry and felt like I could get Qx to come along or maybe some pairs with gutters/bdfd. I guess I have to fold to the huge flop raise, I can't really ever see this being a bluff.

    Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37707992

    CO: $45.09 (180.4 bb)
    MP: $28.81 (115.2 bb)
    SB: $125.10 (500.4 bb)
    BTN: $39.59 (158.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 J K K
    MP folds, CO raises to $0.85, BTN folds, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $2.80, CO calls $1.95, SB calls $1.95

    Flop: ($8.40) Q 8 5 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4.80, CO raises to $22.38




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    04-18-2017 , 10:42 PM
    Q85r isn't a board I'd describe as 'so dry' (or even 'dry'); a bit over half the deck changes the nuts and adds a lot more dynamism.
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    04-19-2017 , 03:14 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
    Q85r isn't a board I'd describe as 'so dry' (or even 'dry'); a bit over half the deck changes the nuts and adds a lot more dynamism.
    But isn't every flop in PLO like that?!
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    04-19-2017 , 04:05 AM
    ^ No. The other consideration is you're multiway with very little of it.
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    04-19-2017 , 04:27 AM
    Fold. Agree this isn't a dry board and also agree there aren't many boards you can call 'dry' when playing PLO.

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    04-19-2017 , 06:08 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
    Q85r isn't a board I'd describe as 'so dry' (or even 'dry'); a bit over half the deck changes the nuts and adds a lot more dynamism.
    There's a pretty big difference between 'wet' and 'dynamic' imo

    It's not a super dry flop but it's certainly not super wet either.
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    04-19-2017 , 06:09 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spand42
    But isn't every flop in PLO like that?!
    Not at all. Dry/Wet Static/Dynamic

    This is slightly wet/dynamic

    Example of a dry/static board is AK7r
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    04-19-2017 , 06:21 AM
    In hu its an easy call w your 2bdfds cause the zillion pair+gs type hands he could have. Here its EZ fold he just commited himself w 180bb vs the 500bb stack. Strange that noone even realized that
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    04-19-2017 , 06:28 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by naggeri2
    In hu its an easy call w your 2bdfds cause the zillion pair+gs type hands he could have. Here its EZ fold he just commited himself w 180bb vs the 500bb stack. Strange that noone even realized that
    I guess you're man because you realized then. Well done.

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    04-19-2017 , 06:32 AM
    No cause its the most important thing before you make a decision??
    Sorry that i did not say: everybody is bad here who did not even tought about it but o think its not worth to mention
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    04-19-2017 , 07:00 AM
    I think everyone knows its a fold lol. We're talking about the board texture
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    04-19-2017 , 08:03 AM
    Its a fold but not because of the board texture. If you have 1bb left are you still arguing of the boardtexture?
    Same point here. Big stack commited here w 180bb i dont care of the boardtexture at all. Funny to see ppl do no money in plo sir you proved it again.
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    04-19-2017 , 09:42 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spand42
    Preflop - Is 3Betting this out of the BB a decent play or should I have just called?
    Since nobody else is commenting on this part. This is a standard 3-bet, your preflop play was good.
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    04-19-2017 , 12:29 PM
    Is naggeri2 a new account for naggeri the stars midstakes reg?
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    04-19-2017 , 01:48 PM
    Yeah, just try to clean out the forum from the clearly bad answers with power.
    How do you do? Still skyrocketing the z200 sir?
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    04-19-2017 , 04:07 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Darkfangs
    Since nobody else is commenting on this part. This is a standard 3-bet, your preflop play was good.
    What's my response to a 4bet from the original raiser?
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    04-19-2017 , 05:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spand42
    What's my response to a 4bet from the original raiser?
    What do you know about villain? Is his 4b range defined in any way? If it's AAxx a large % of the time then fold.
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    04-20-2017 , 04:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by naggeri2
    Yeah, just try to clean out the forum from the clearly bad answers with power.
    How do you do? Still skyrocketing the z200 sir?
    still donating to bosses like Renan and ArgentinGOD. You sounded way more aggressive in your posts than the past.
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    04-20-2017 , 04:52 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
    What do you know about villain? Is his 4b range defined in any way? If it's AAxx a large % of the time then fold.
    This hand isn't a fold vs AA but it's very close


    I have not folded this type of hand to a 4bet in my entire life and have no plans to do it anytime soon
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    04-20-2017 , 06:22 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by naggeri2
    Yeah, just try to clean out the forum from the clearly bad answers with power.
    How do you do? Still skyrocketing the z200 sir?
    Yes, lets make sure that everybody can get solid advice for free here. That way we can be 100% sure that the games will be completely unbeatable when Stars removes rakeback alltogether.

    Your logic is sound as always, Sir
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    04-20-2017 , 07:27 AM
    3! Is fine, prefer checking the flop as it is easy to get blown off our hand by wraps/combo draws incorrectly, there are also lots of good turn cards for us when we decide to check/call
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    04-20-2017 , 07:45 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oink
    Yes, lets make sure that everybody can get solid advice for free here. That way we can be 100% sure that the games will be completely unbeatable when Stars removes rakeback alltogether.

    Your logic is sound as always, Sir
    Then stick to posting in any number of the other sub-forums available on 2p2. While you're doing that, be sure to remember not to create a thread asking for feedback on hands that you've played, because, well, that'd be a tiny bit hypocritical.

    Anyone who exhibits any interest in wanting to improve can jump online and find countless resources to do so. The reason that 2p2 has stuck around, and the reason that I come back to it, is because it's as much of an online community as it is a place to further your knowledge. Unfortunately both of those things seem to be on the decline.
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    04-20-2017 , 08:35 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
    This hand isn't a fold vs AA but it's very close





    I have not folded this type of hand to a 4bet in my entire life and have no plans to do it anytime soon

    Had a brutal session last night including losing two stacks in 4bet pots with KKxx vs AAxx fml.

    At least I'm pumping money into the PLO community while I'm still learning!
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    04-20-2017 , 11:28 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AveeMaria
    Then stick to posting in any number of the other sub-forums available on 2p2. While you're doing that, be sure to remember not to create a thread asking for feedback on hands that you've played, because, well, that'd be a tiny bit hypocritical.

    Anyone who exhibits any interest in wanting to improve can jump online and find countless resources to do so. The reason that 2p2 has stuck around, and the reason that I come back to it, is because it's as much of an online community as it is a place to further your knowledge. Unfortunately both of those things seem to be on the decline.
    I don't think he will ask for feedback on 2p2

    People like advice that agree with them. That's why bad posts breed more bad posts and good stuff get drowned out.
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    04-20-2017 , 11:40 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gay_on_tse
    I don't think he will ask for feedback on 2p2



    People like advice that agree with them. That's why bad posts breed more bad posts and good stuff get drowned out.


    That dude has rubbed a few people on the 2p2 forums the wrong way. I went on a profanity-laced tirade last week because of it.

    Onto the hand. Preflop is really good. Papi just came out with a video this week where he mentions never folding the BB. With your hand a 3bet is great here. On the flop you're probably beat. Fold and wait for a better opportunity.


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