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25PLO, bb vs sb, to bet or check back? 25PLO, bb vs sb, to bet or check back?

12-18-2018 , 04:08 AM
Me: kd 7d ks 3c, $32

Sb: competitive, competent, haven't seen much move in his game but everything indicates it's there, probably a winning player at these stakes. $33

Pre:

folded to sb who pots, I repot, sb calls.

Flop: kc js 6h, $4.5

Sb checks, I pot, sb calls

Turn: kc js 6h th, $13.5

Sb checks...

I expect him to check raise AQ some of the time and lead with it most of the time. I expect him to lead and/or check call with Q9 some of the time.

That said, if he has AQ is it a mistake to gii and run it with him with 25% equity?

If this is a bet, I'd like to pot and nothing less, to price out the heart draw, or make him pay to hit, or to be able to bet fold if I'm supposed to (first question), to rep AQ and perhaps get Q9 to fold. I think with a pot from me, as we've played together enough, I expect him to read me for AQ.

Against this player, at these stakes, I don't like betting less than pot here, to protect from potentially settting myself to get bluffed out, to miss value when he's drawing, or to let him draw cheaply.

If he boosts do you run it?
Is it instead a standard check back on the turn when we don't have the straight? Do you potentially let him draw for free?

What else am I missing?

Thanks for your time and thought,
5th
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12-19-2018 , 10:53 PM
Looking for insight in this tricky area, please.

I find myself sometimes semi bluffing in these spots with a strong hand but not the nuts.

If I always check without the nuts, isn't that exploitable, and giving up value from draws?

If i get raised, is it possible to be committed and yet not have the equity to call?
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12-20-2018 , 07:32 AM
Repping the straight withtop set is not a great idea. If we are folding to a check raise check back, if you are just getting it in bet call it off.. there’s no magic formula here. You have the third nuts. I would check back and play rivers cautiously however I’m just a noob..
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12-21-2018 , 12:57 AM
If you have $26 of your $33 stack, yes it is a mistake to gii w 25% equity.

You could bet around 1/2 -2/3 pot ott if you think he only has heart draw (if he has combo draw, second nuts- you can't price him out of a call anyway) and evaluated river.

However, i would use your positional advantage in this spot and check turn and bet river if he checks again on a safe card and obviously bet/raise if board pairs.
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12-21-2018 , 02:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjou812
If you have $26 of your $33 stack, yes it is a mistake to gii w 25% equity.

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Is there a difference if I bet pot, leaving myself with 13 and get jammed for the rest
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12-21-2018 , 04:04 PM
I thnk you are pot committing yourself w a jam ott with the worst of it and have to call off the last 13 given the pot odds if he rejams. For no reason.

Are you playing plo or no limit omaha? How can you gii ott after he checked?

Last edited by jjjou812; 12-21-2018 at 04:12 PM.
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12-21-2018 , 06:25 PM
Plo - by betting and then reluctantly calling off the rest facing a raise
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12-22-2018 , 02:01 PM
Bet small otf!

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12-23-2018 , 08:38 AM
If you're assuming villain is competent, your pot size bet on the flop narrows his calling range. I think there are plenty of AQ10x and Q109x in his SB raising range and his competence adds more of these hands in his turn check-raising range, you also block Kxxx with KK. I don't think you need protection from much; heart draws don't make up that large a portion of his range, I don't think he has a lot of bare Q10xx without a 9. Betting large so you don't get bluffed out is not a thing; your range also has plenty of Q9xx and AQxx. You are certainly repping AQxx or QQxx if you pot turn, although this isn't relevant. Without further reads I would check back, against opponents who have a significant leading range I would half pot turn and fold to a repot.
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