so been studying a bit recently with plo, more 6 max recently but also some HU using mainly monker but have session open now and wanted to ask questions about this spot ,

PokerStars Zoom, Omaha Pot Limit - $1/$2 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB: $228.27 (114 bb)
BB (Hero): $345.88 (173 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BB with A♦ 4♦ 9♣ 4♠
SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($10) 6♣ J♦ 4♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Turn: ($29) K♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $27.75, Hero calls $27.75

River: ($84.50) 9♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $83.25, BB (Hero) folds

flop turn and river all welcome for debate. villain is a reg playing 63 68 20 over 1k hands or so with a cbet of around 50%.

question does monker ever raise this on this dry board with bottom set and bd nut flush draw? from my studies ive found it prefers calling these bottom sets but i see many a times reg raising these hands as a std? i have not done much nodelocking so i assume vs humans who are overcalling flop it might be good?

Turn i think this could be a mistake just calling? although IP does have some JJ KK still that i think wont fold but still he has alot of draws in his range (cbet turn of 50% over an ok sample) and we have ok equity when we gii vs range . i will look over this spot tonight after playing but would like a few opinions on this spot turn felt weak to me just calling but i would like to see what most would do here?

river ok i block aqtdd and unblock some 8763 type stufff and dont know how revelant the 9 is here? villain i had cbet river of 1/8 times so not a big sample on river but is this hand just totally butchered? i felt weak calling turn especially to fold river but looking at his river cbet i didnt feel great about hero calling

all flames welcome

will run this spot tonight but would be interested to know any guys thoughts on this . think turn might be a huge mistake to call here IN GTO land. nodelocking to take some bluffs away it probably folding everything but QT in this spot right

River is close, i think calling it off is prob ok against this line. Even without a q or t i think villain is just going to triple barrel bluff this runout at such a high frequency expecting a ton of folds.

I think flop call is best option. Turn i lean raise against oppponents who can get out of line. We want to be able to punish and this hand is strong enough to do so, while maybe not strong enough to be great trap.

Flop is good. Turn either way. Calling river

thanks have not run this spot but in HU with ranges i assume this pure calls river felt nitty folding even with small sample size on river cbet .

so just found nearest flop i could find for HU ranges 100bb . seems like it leads bottom set with bdnfd like 30% of the time, but mainly checking this sort of combo.

seems as if in HU it wants to raise this flop 100% . albeit the flop is Js4d3c which maybe changes things albeit slightly i think?



i have found that bottom sets usually calling but have not done much rainbow texture work with the bd nfd but found on two toned flops it likes to call those bottom sets with no backup and raise the ones with sd or fd as backup 100bb in SRP . so flop i probably played bad in first place?

probably fine calling as it likes to call with some of the 33 that hold an A/K/Q and raising the most bottom sets.. but raising mostly like 98% of its bottom sets on the Js4d3c 100bb for hu ranges

https://i.gyazo.com/6b4f54f246050036...269079684d.png when we get to turn with a33q with flushdraw it basically 100% raises . its calling some two pairs on the river with good blockers and without in GTO land so i expect when i nodelock to call it calls 100% on river

so i nodelock us to call a933 with no flushdraw on turn cause it actually wants us to mainly raise even without flushdraw on turn and it wants us to fold 100% on river to 99%pot cbet :O but actually donks this combo 70% of the time

actually prefers two pairs here with some good blockers and some 3 pairs over the combo. will nodelock flop turn for us to call all bottom set and see how it reacts on river. i imagine it doesnt want to fold but i could be wrong (usually am with my sim assumptions)

Cool analysis jayme, i would guess that solvers lead a j64 flop at least a little more often than j34 and similarly that having some good bottom sets in range for the j34 board is also a little more valuable.

Agree that mixing in lower-frequency flop lead with this hand is good though in practice i am adjusting based on opponent. A lot of population over cbets this texture.

The river often being tricky OOP seems like a good reason to shove the turn.

Awesome work with the solver!

From what I can see vision does roughly the same thing: wants to lead flop 50%, if check then 100% x/r flop (although thinks villain should only check or 50%). By turn it wants us to lead, if we check and they bet it just says GFY.