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12-31-2018 , 07:53 AM
Not sure if to post this here or in mtt since its PLO but ICM.. Please dont comment if you dont have good tournament AND PLO knowledge

38 entries tourney. Good structure.
5 spots pay.

People are definitely getting in too much pre and especially postflop in spots they shouldnt

Stacks:
Utg 100bb
Utg1 20bb
Lj 20bb
Hj 5bb
Co 20bb
Btn 15bb
Sb 100bb
Bb HERO 45bb
So we're avg stack but 3/8 with 5 pay

Utg (high vpip middle eastern man but reasonable player, has limped AAxx Utg previously) limps
Utg1 pots to 4.5
Lj calls
Hj folds
Co calls
Btn folds
Sb folds
HERO has kk79ds

fold, call, or raise and why?

Edit: Utg and Sb probably has like 120bb each actually

Last edited by Loctus; 12-31-2018 at 07:59 AM.
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12-31-2018 , 08:39 AM
Looks like a better hand HU than multi-way POT


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12-31-2018 , 09:21 AM
Edit: nvm.

Last edited by Loctus; 12-31-2018 at 09:23 AM. Reason: .
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01-01-2019 , 07:45 PM
Assuming description of UTG is that he's playing slightly too many hands, but def. has AA as a non-trivial portion of his range here then I guess fold (you can easily go into the money by folding this one hand). If it's more like he is playing 60%+ but also playing AA the same way, eh.


I doubt UTG1, LJ or CO ever fold given they've all put 25% of their stack in, so if you are going to raise then min. raising seems the best ... one of them can easily shove so it puts as much pressure on UTG as potting and we have the most chance of getting away if he does something obvious.
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01-01-2019 , 08:39 PM
Shoving should be +cev, but given your stack depth and good structure folding is fine. Calling seems very unattractive, there is a high chance of action reopening, and postflop can be quite challenging.

Calculating how profitable the shove is slightly tricky, but with 45bb this is exactly the kind of high variance situation we should be cautious about getting involved in. Rewards are somewhat asymmetric in that losing any chips hurts hero a lot more than the next 20-30 bb he adds to stack.

Cool post, I think there is certainly merit to shoving, but I dont have enough information from op to recommend it.
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