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04-26-2018 , 09:49 PM

Puma1

adept

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 714

Should we jam flop here?

partypoker - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 202.3 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 41.04, PFR: 19.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.09, Hands: 12,690)
SB: 112.5 BB (VPIP: 39.32, PFR: 17.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.97, Hands: 10,973)
BB: 161.6 BB (VPIP: 39.13, PFR: 18.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.48, Hands: 13,197)
UTG: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 39.95, PFR: 18.20, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 11,589)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 14.5 BB, UTG calls 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Flop: (44 BB, 3 players) 5

BB checks, UTG bets 31.3 BB, [color=red]Hero ?

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04-27-2018 , 03:16 AM

md46135

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 420

I think I would fold this hand preflop in CO vs MP open-raise. it's not really a good hand.

as played, you probably have to GII with this action, UTG's PFR is 18% so he shouldn't really have too many 42 or 47. his most likely hand is some kind of QQ with hearts, maybe 78 with hearts, draws + 1 pair. and you should be beating BB almost always on this board with his 6.5% 3bet.

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04-27-2018 , 07:10 AM

SolarAU

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,795

Flop im stacking off. I think UTG is leading a tonne of nut flush draw combos and as the above poster mentioned their ranges are tight enough that you shouldn't be getting it in here in terrible shape very often if at all.

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04-27-2018 , 09:24 AM

sdclaw

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 131

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Originally Posted by SolarAU

NFD plus AA has or wrap or draw with a pair both have us in bad shape. Given the action the latter is more likely. Even a FSD with 4 overs is close to even money. I think I call and see what the turn brings. Lets use our position to our advantage here.

Also this is a pretty clear fold pre to the original raise, and its a fold to the 3 bet. We are basicslly set mining with KK here. We want to either see a flop cheap or have 4+ to 1 direct odds. We don't have either here.

Last edited by sdclaw; 04-27-2018 at 09:30 AM.

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04-27-2018 , 12:20 PM

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

Don't fold pre either time, shove flop.

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04-27-2018 , 12:55 PM

Purasevic

adept

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 768

Pre is very marginal call,fold would be fine as well.As played you can not fold on this flop.

Why people call it 10NL when it`s plo

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04-27-2018 , 02:34 PM

Puma1

adept

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 714

Thank you all for your replies. Would hand being double suited make it a standard preflop call? Where do you draw the line for calling with KKxx type hand in this spot?

**Putting NL in title is just habits lol

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04-27-2018 , 03:59 PM

sdclaw

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 131

Double suited the hand is much more playable especially in position provided you realize the value of being double Suited is that it can give you improvementr options on made hands and not so much a primary draw. In other words even in position the King High flush draw naked is not usually enough to get you to the river and certainly not something you're looking to stack off on.

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04-27-2018 , 05:49 PM

kolotoure2.0

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 423

Definitely in the not folding either time pf camp. Unless it is a game where you get squeezed a ton. Shoving flop but not particularly excited about it as we are never far ahead

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