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11-02-2018 , 12:30 PM
partypoker, Omaha Pot Limit - $5/$10 - 3 players
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BU: $1,619.35 (162 bb)
SB: $713.48 (71 bb)
BB (Hero): $1,039.39 (104 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($15) Hero is BB with 6 A T J
BTN raises to $35, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $110, BTN calls $75

Flop: ($225) 2 7 J (2 players)
Hero bets $111.50, BTN calls $111.50

Turn: ($448) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $446, Hero calls $446

River: ($1,340) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $951.85 (all-in), BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $1,340 (Rake: $2)
BU wins $1,338

hey guys, mainly a 2 card player so go easy on me
readless other than vill being a solid reg
PF i think can go both ways? i feel like 3b is def acceptable tho
Flop i think can also go both ways?
Turn im pretty sure check is right but idk if i call a PSB. my intentions were to donk jam if i hit a straight or flush (maybe not flush)

Last edited by bbbgawdbbb; 11-02-2018 at 12:41 PM.
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11-02-2018 , 07:03 PM
Flop, I like a bet-fold line with this hand, and the board is quite dry so your sizing is reasonable.


Turn im pretty sure check is right but idk if i call a PSB.

We know 8 cards, so there are 44 left.

We like three queens and 8 non board pairing spades. 11. So this is a ratio of 33:11 of unfavourable to favourable turns. We might have some hidden outs, like an ace or a jack, and there is a chance that villain is semi bluffing and AJ is the best hand, but these are not high percentage possibilities imo.

Anyway, we are 3:1 against improving and getting only 2:1. Now there is still $1000 behind, and we might have some hidden outs or win after the river goes check/check, so there is a case for calling, but I think the conservative play and the choice that I would make is to fold. The difference between our outs and our pot odds is too extreme. If it were closer, if we were 2.5:1 against improving and getting 2:1, or if we were 3:1 against and getting 2.5:1 then I would call.
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11-02-2018 , 07:22 PM
I think we called too much money on the turn OOP w/ a not nut FD and fairly low SDV.
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11-02-2018 , 08:10 PM
oh I didn't even realize our flush draw was non nut. much clearer fold.
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11-02-2018 , 08:48 PM
should continue betting on the turn , the mistake is thinking that turn is a check..
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11-02-2018 , 09:12 PM
Turn is villain dependent. If villain tends to barrel w/ high frequency on turn, this is a profitable check/jam. If V plays standard or tight turn cbets, this is a x/fold.

As played, fold river - V almost always is barreling through w/ KJ.
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11-02-2018 , 09:25 PM
I prefer 3betting pre as you did.Half pot cbet is probably fine,but I think potting this has some merits.You re definitely not too deep.Btw this is not a hand and board that I would choose for bet/folding regardless of the size.Turn is a fold against pot sized bet.
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11-03-2018 , 10:00 AM
I think with the nut flush draw I like a turn check/call a lot better.

With our hand, I think a bet/fold or a check/fold (to that sizing) is better. I'd lean towards a bet since we do have some relevant blockers to our opponent continuing and he can make a fold with small two pair or a KT98.
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11-03-2018 , 10:44 AM
I guess I'm the only one who bets this turn all day every day. And I fire again on the river as a bluff.
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11-03-2018 , 11:19 PM
I would barrel turn. This is a great card for giving us equity and smacks are 3-betting range.
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11-04-2018 , 11:19 PM
I would pot/call turn, but I'm not exactly happy about calling.

Why?

1) Checking gives up too many free cards to **** like 789 with backdoors (which he can have a lot of)

2) We have something like 16% equity against most worst-case scenarios (except KJ + nfd) and probably 35% equity on average if we get it in.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
3,840 trials (Exhaustive)
board: KJ72
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
ATsJs616.72% 6420
KQsJ9s83.28% 3,1980

3) Checking turns our hand face up as "good, not great"

Betting turn is probably quite profitable, and we'll have to call a jam due to pot size.

2nd thought:
Maybe check-shove turn because this board's gonna induce a lot of floats, we don't really mind seeing the river given our draws, and we have a decent amount of equity when our shove is called?

Last edited by potsmasher; 11-04-2018 at 11:25 PM.
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11-14-2018 , 11:50 AM
My thoughts:

Pretty mandatory to 3bet this hand.
I think flop sizing is bad. We should either bet smaller or go full pot.
We should be willing to stack off on the flop, both as a bet/call or a check/raise.

Turn is a good turn card. We should continue barreling. Check raising river is definitely also an option, and really depends on the player pool / player.
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