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1/1 live PLO jam top pair plus nfd and gutter? 1/1 live PLO jam top pair plus nfd and gutter?

05-11-2019 , 09:10 AM
Another home game hand.

I think 5 to the flop stacks range from $60-400 hero has the table covered at around $800.

Pre it's a single raise to $5 hero has AQ45 and limp calls (raise came after my limp). I think there is an argument for folding but over flushing someone this deep is crazy profitable.

Flop:$30. - AT3
Checks to opener who bets $6, 2 calls, player on my right makes it $60, hero pauses and pots it to about $230...

So about villain. He started with $280
He is by far the tightest player at the table pre. He played two hands in the first 1.5 hours and he joked that he's going to take up knitting to keep him busy during poker. That being said he does open up his aggression post and isn't just betting the nuts, he isn't a fan of stacking off without the nuts and is probably the only player at the table that could fold in this spot.
He will pot it pre with premium hands.

Given the info I like my raise if it were hu, but what are the thoughts of it with 3 left to act who have not showed much interest in the pot?

I have a lot of online 6-max PLO experience, but live is basically a completely different game due to massive stack depths and 5+ way flops.
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05-11-2019 , 10:35 AM
jamming is bad, just call let the inferior draws come along.

fold pre. not every hand with a whiff of nut potential is playable.
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05-11-2019 , 12:46 PM
Why do you want to force the other 3 players out?

Also you rarely see a potraise/fold otf at these stakes. I mean I guess he could fold AT or bottom set if he's a nit...

Last edited by Czech Rays; 05-11-2019 at 12:53 PM.
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05-11-2019 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Czech Rays
Why do you want to force the other 3 players out?
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I assumed my equity hu would be better than my equity multiway. I figured hu two pair is a big part of his range so my Q might be live. Sure TT and 33 are also parts of his range. If I'm lucky he has something like KQJ with clubs and I'm a pretty decent favorite.

But after looking at it given all my outs are basically nutted hands I want multiway action.
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05-11-2019 , 03:58 PM
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I assumed my equity hu would be better than my equity multiway.
Why solve for equity instead of for expected value?
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05-12-2019 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by El Barbero
I think there is an argument for folding but over flushing someone this deep is crazy profitable.
But then you raise flop to get all the bad flush draws to fold.

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Originally Posted by El Barbero

Flop:$30. - AT3
Checks to opener who bets $6, 2 calls, player on my right makes it $60, hero pauses and pots it to about $230...

So about villain. He started with $280
So villain has about $210 left after his raise, and there are two people between you. Even if you have bare AA here you should almost certainly be raising to $120-$160. This allows villain to fold or jam, and the 3(?) other villains between have to guess.

Your line is pretty weird too, most of your high equity hands will be draws ... even TT should be worried if PFR 4bet shoves and so might not pot 3bet.

But, whatever, too many words ... lol, call.
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05-13-2019 , 04:06 AM
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Even if you have bare AA here you should almost certainly be raising to $120-$160.
not with stacks ranging from $60-$400.
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