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11-21-2007 , 11:29 AM

Paulie Walnuts

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I'm smack in the middle of mine. I play 2-4 to 10-20PLO. Nothing is worse than running bad at PLO. What's the most anyone has lost on a downswing and how long before it started to come around again for the good?

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11-21-2007 , 11:54 AM

jbird

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27 buyins is my current record.

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11-21-2007 , 12:06 PM

CrushinFelt

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A cool million

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11-21-2007 , 12:23 PM

Paulie Walnuts

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27 buyins is my current record.

What limits u play and how lon before u made those 27 back or did you?

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11-21-2007 , 12:31 PM

pete fabrizio

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~20 buy-ins at 1-2 and 2-4, but i recovered pretty fast after taking a short hiatus. with the current state of 6-max plo games, i pretty much expect to have at least one 10+bi downswing every month.

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11-21-2007 , 01:04 PM

jbird

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What limits u play and how lon before u made those 27 back or did you?

That was at mostly 1/2 and some .5/1.

Still working my way back but getting very close.

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11-21-2007 , 01:08 PM

sc000t

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,069

-10bi in one day.

So I just moved up, thats only 5bi one level higher!!!

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11-21-2007 , 01:20 PM

Elrazor

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i pretty much expect to have at least one 10+bi downswing every month.

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11-21-2007 , 01:35 PM

getitfixed

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14 days into this month I was 21 buy ins at my usual stakes. The real XXXX salad part about it was, I was going to start moving up this month! So, I'm still grinding it out at 75% 1/2 and 25% .50/1. Still stuck for the month, but not after rakeback! =)

By the way Scoot, I love you BR management! I think I'll try that.

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11-21-2007 , 01:59 PM

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Zefa

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Mine is actually about 8 BI, people talking about 27 buy ins scare the crap out of me.

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11-21-2007 , 03:33 PM

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Poker monkey

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I had a 15 BI downswing at 0.50/1 in early September and this kind of put me off Omaha for a bit. Fortunately it came after a 20 BI heater, although I'd taken a bunch of the money out as profit already.

Just remember bankroll management, and if you're below 20 BIs, drop down a level.

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11-21-2007 , 03:54 PM

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automat

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i´ve managed to lose 5-8 buy-ins at one single table several time. i wouldn´t call it a downswing though as there was a lot of tilt involved.

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11-21-2007 , 04:00 PM

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iggymcfly

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Mine's about 40 buy-ins, but that's because I really left it affect my play. I took some time off after that and started playing a lot tighter preflop and I had no trouble getting it back.

When I was actually playing reasonably well, my worst downswing was 27 buy-ins. Not that I was 100% optimal on every decision, but I was playing fairly well at least. That came in the middle of what would have been a 32K hand breakeven stretch if I'd just waited for it to end, but I didn't. I kept chasing my losses to manufacture profits instead and ended up busting my account at about the 28K mark.

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11-21-2007 , 04:00 PM

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Rob121

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i´ve managed to lose 5-8 buy-ins at one single table playing heads up several times

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11-21-2007 , 04:23 PM

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JanelleBB7

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A cool million

u lost a million?? OMG that has to be devasting. Or are you being sarcastic?

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11-21-2007 , 05:12 PM

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getitfixed

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Just remember bankroll management, and if you're below 20 BIs, drop down a level.

I assume this is a weak attempt at leveling? Scoot has it figured out, IMO, move up and yuo are only down half as much! Don't be a nit!

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11-21-2007 , 05:56 PM

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Tartufo

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20.

my biggest upswing is 5, btw

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11-21-2007 , 06:33 PM

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gordo16

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meh, probably somewhere in the 20-30 range, playing 25/50..

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11-21-2007 , 07:25 PM

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Wires

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with the current state of 6-max plo games, i pretty much expect to have at least one 10+bi downswing every month.

Pete,

Can you (or anyone else) expand on this point? What is it about the current state of the game that would lead to at least one 10BI downswing/month? How is this different from the previous state of the game? Would you not expect the same variance in the prior state?

Thanks.

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11-21-2007 , 07:38 PM

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2handed

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around 40 buy ins, but I think i let the downswing affect my play. Still working on getting it back.

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11-21-2007 , 07:45 PM

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TheRempel

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I've had two -15+ BI days in the last three weeks. I've also had four +15 or more BI days in the same period.

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11-21-2007 , 08:28 PM

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automat

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I've had two -15+ BI days in the last three weeks. I've also had four +15 or more BI days in the same period.

graph plz

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11-21-2007 , 08:39 PM

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wazz

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,035

I'm just coming off a 37 buyin downswing. Or, at least I think I'm coming off it.

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11-21-2007 , 08:48 PM

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Perestroika

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 569

I have a question. When you guys are on these horrible downswings, are they primarily from outrageous and constant outdraws?

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11-21-2007 , 08:53 PM

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pete fabrizio

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with the current state of 6-max plo games, i pretty much expect to have at least one 10+bi downswing every month.

people play better and raise more preflop, so the winrate/sd of a good player is fairly low compared to the past.

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