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What to do here on turn? Top two pair What to do here on turn? Top two pair

02-19-2024 , 06:50 PM
My notes on villian is

"spewy in position 3 way 3bet pot. Does not check back draws, will bet call."

Other than that, standard tag.

SB: 118.4 BB
Hero (BB): 125.36 BB
UTG: 106.92 BB
MP: 104.6 BB
CO: 204.64 BB
BTN: 80.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T A 9 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 6 T
SB bets 4.48 BB, Hero calls 4.48 BB

Turn: (14.96 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 11.2 BB, SB raises to 48.56 BB, ???
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02-19-2024 , 07:32 PM
Villain is repping a monster, and notes aren't that helpful. Is villain a tag or a fish?

Hero can call and call blank rivers, or can fold now if he thinks villain is mostly sets and combo draws often with as. Hero is also freerolled by other at generally.

Villain doesn't have a huge number of natural semi-bluffs, its mostly kqjx, a with at least one broadway, and maybe some double paired flush draws with various straight draws.. but those hands can also reasonably xc. Single paired flush draw hands like akkq with nut draw also possible.

Hero having two 9s in hand also blocks some of the weaker semi bluff combos.

Probably a fold vs tighter, non-creative players.
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02-19-2024 , 10:17 PM
Villian is a regular.

Yea I was thinking my 9 blockers aren't helping me. I have the blockers for AAXX and TTxx. On the other hand, I don't have that many re-draws.
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02-21-2024 , 11:54 AM
Yes, interesting line by a labeled TAG .. what changed with A on Turn? TAGs bet 'for protection', not x/r. Was V really expecting Hero to bite on this Turn so they could x/r all the draws and (presumably) lessor made hands?

Block As .. block 99 .. block T ..

AKQJ with ss? .. What 66xx/22xx hands raise PF? None from TAG .. Notes really don't help this hand .. OOP and 'didn't check back a draw?

Very polar for sure .. obv could be a cooler as well AAxx that's trying to chase away/value As flush draws.

Can we walk away from 18bb against this Player? Are there really that many blanks on the River after putting in 2x more bb?

If Hero has tendency to bet 'a lot' then I think we lay this down. Sure, we could be chopping but do we win enough? GL
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02-21-2024 , 12:32 PM
I'd consider raising the flop blocking top set, pp, and nf blocker.

If he playing all rfi from the SB, I'd probably fold turn. If he has a coherent pf strat including open limps, I'm inclined to call turn because he would have limped significant AA pre.
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02-21-2024 , 12:51 PM
I just don't get what he has here that we can beat, and we block the NFD. I'd probably just fold to a standard TAG - if he's not jamming worse value hands you're at best looking at getting freerolled by a better AT, or maybe some kind of two pair + flush draw. Stacks are just so deep for him to make this play I would be very concerned.
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02-21-2024 , 02:07 PM
Preflop - You are clearly a favourite over an SB opening range and in position.

I like a flop raise for the reasons Munga said "I'd consider raising the flop blocking top set, pp, and nf blocker." Additionally, your 99 provides you with some robust equity, which solvers like (hitting a two outer). Furthermore, you have bdfd. I've checked two solvers, and they both like raising here.

Turn is interesting. He can have A345, A987, AKJss and a few other hands where this line makes some sense. It is hard to get a correct result from one solver as they would never get to this turn with your holding taking the path you took; Flophero likes to go all in with your exact hand but is folding a lot of AT hands. Basically, from what I see, FlopHero likes to reshove any ATRR hand. It also likes to reshove any AT(7,8,9) hands but folds all AT6. It's split 66%/33% between shoving/folding on this action at 100bb stacks.

You are probably very close to indifference here against a solver, and the solver is probably more aggressive than the villain, so you are probably folding vs population.
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02-24-2024 , 12:37 AM
Thanks! I was interested in the turn decision and never would have thought about the flop raise. I was considering flatting the flop and then bluffing any spade.

Another thing I noticed was that GTO says to 3bet in this position as well pre-flop with all AT99
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03-15-2024 , 03:08 AM
For the flop raise, are you potting and then folding? What is the correct sizing here? I think I’m not bluffing enough here.
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03-15-2024 , 09:01 AM
Interesting comments/intel .. While I agree with the blocking aspects of our holding I also worry about them when we have to continue. Obv agree that hitting a set is strong, but I also think that having a pp and not making a set OTF really weakens our ability to improve our 1-pr status. Having almost zero Solver use I do find it curious that a 2-out draw would have such an impact on our continuation strategy.

And yes .. are we r/f the Flop? I think so .. I don't use pot as a bet anywhere near as much as other Players in my pool. Am I losing value? Yes, but I'm also thinking more about setting up the next bet for maximum equity denial. If you bet too much then a Player may feel 'too' obligated to continue when you may want to generate some folds more often on the next street.

I do use bet sizing as an image weapon, but also try to balance the use of certain sizes between nuts, massive draws and blocking bluffs. GL
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03-16-2024 , 07:44 PM
Honestly turn raise feels bluffy to me. I’m shipping.
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