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07-20-2012 , 07:03 AM
No point jamming last hand, I doubt he b/f 2 pair+ that he decided to bet otr on this runout so call>jam imo.

Last edited by Hackdeath; 07-20-2012 at 07:08 AM. Reason: I dunno actually, can you explain jam pls?
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07-21-2012 , 06:54 AM
Villain quite passive call stationy (which is why I elected to mash the pot button).

    On Game, $0.50/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13567732

    Hero (BB): $53.50 (107 bb)
    BTN: $90.55 (181.1 bb)
    SB: $50.85 (101.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 4 9 6
    BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1.50

    Flop: ($4.50) 8 T Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($4.50) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero raises to $15, BTN calls $11.50

    River: ($34.50) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $34.50, BTN calls $34.50

    Spoiler:
    Results: $103.50 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 8 T Q 2 5
    Hero showed 9 4 9 6 and lost (-$51.50 net)
    BTN showed T 6 2 A and won $101.50 ($50 net)



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    07-21-2012 , 10:20 AM
    Villain quite passive call stationy

    why bluff then?
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    07-21-2012 , 11:46 AM
    Exactly. I thought pot button would work - stupid.
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    07-21-2012 , 04:00 PM
    this is the ultimate image posting thread
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    07-24-2012 , 02:52 AM
    PokerStars - $2 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    SB: $692.78
    Hero (BB): $319.50

    SB posts SB $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00

    Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero has K 4 K T

    SB raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $18.00, SB calls $12.00

    Flop: ($36.00, 2 players) 7 4 7
    Hero bets $15.62, SB raises to $44.00, Hero calls $28.38

    Turn: ($124.00, 2 players) 3
    Hero checks, SB checks

    River: ($124.00, 2 players) A
    Hero checks, SB bets $64.00, Hero raises to $257.50 and is all-in, SB calls $193.50

    Hero shows K 4 K T (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 13%, Turn 20%)
    SB shows Q 6 7 A (Full House, Sevens full of Aces) (Pre 45%, Flop 87%, Turn 80%)
    SB wins $638.50
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    07-24-2012 , 02:57 AM
    raped him at 50, tilt seated me at 200, was down 150bbs, tilt shoved with crap got lucky then this, snapsitouted after, wp sir, tilt!!!!! fghjksdaf
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    07-24-2012 , 08:49 AM
    You got owned
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    07-24-2012 , 08:56 AM
    thats sums it up pretty well
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    07-24-2012 , 10:03 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yrmom
    It's not my bluff, but it's too nice not to be posted.

    I was playing with three other grinders sweating me and we were talking about how there is no way our Queens full is ever good here. However SB leveled the bejesus out of us

    iPoker - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    MP: $45.55
    CO: $102.60
    BTN: $157.20
    SB: $116.38
    Hero (BB): $100.00
    UTG: $59.78

    SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

    Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has Q A Q 7

    fold, MP calls $1.00, fold, BTN calls $1.00, SB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $4.00, MP calls $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

    Flop: ($20.00, 4 players) 8 Q 8
    SB bets $10.00, Hero calls $10.00, MP calls $10.00, BTN calls $10.00

    Turn: ($60.00, 4 players) 8
    SB bets $44.00, fold, MP calls $30.55, fold

    River: ($121.10, 2 players) 4

    MP shows 4 T A A (Full House, Eights full of Aces) (Pre 62%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
    SB shows 6 5 4 3 (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 38%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
    MP wins $118.10
    Where does that 6% equity on the flop come from.
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    07-24-2012 , 10:14 AM
    Backdoor trips + backdoor straight
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    07-24-2012 , 10:17 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jabonator
    Backdoor trips + backdoor straight
    aha I thought I saw someone flopping queens full, but he didn´t make it to the river.
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    07-24-2012 , 10:19 AM
    in countries where 6high gets queens full to fold and don't have them include in the calc... 6% vs AAT4 otf
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    07-24-2012 , 10:20 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by F3rz3nd3
    in countries where 6high gets queens full to fold and don't have them include in the calc... 6% vs AAT4 otf
    ninja edited you
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    07-24-2012 , 10:21 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
    ninja edited you
    wp sir, wp!
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    07-24-2012 , 08:24 PM
    Grabbed by Holdem Manager
    PL Omaha $1(BB)
    SB ($423)
    BB ($53.28)
    Hero ($161)
    UTG+1 ($162)
    CO ($120)
    BTN ($255)

    Dealt to Hero T 9 T 7

    Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, fold, BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $12, fold

    FLOP ($36) J 5 Q

    Hero checks, BTN checks

    TURN ($36) J 5 Q Q

    Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21

    RIVER ($78) J 5 Q Q 3

    Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero raises to $125 (AI), BTN calls $77.17

    Hero shows T 9 T 7
    (Pre 38%, Flop 59.0%, Turn 32.5%)

    BTN shows 4 K 2 K
    (Pre 62%, Flop 41.0%, Turn 67.5%)

    BTN wins $325
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    07-25-2012 , 11:49 AM
    Once I raise the flop can I fold?
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.44 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 24
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $6.87 USD ) - VPIP: 56, PFR: 34, 3B: 21, AF: 6.9, Hands: 126
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.61 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 1.6, Hands: 226
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $6.79 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 41
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $8.04 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 113
    Seat 6: Hero ( $4.58 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 24, 3B: 15, AF: 3.7, Hands: 816

      Merge, $0.02/$0.04 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13567902

      MP: $1.44 (36 bb)
      CO: $6.87 (171.8 bb)
      BTN: $5.61 (140.3 bb)
      SB: $6.79 (169.8 bb)
      BB: $8.04 (201 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $4.58 (114.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6 J 9 J
      Hero raises to $0.12, MP folds, CO raises to $0.32, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.70) 8 T 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.52, Hero raises to $2.26, CO raises to $6.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $2 and is all-in

      Turn: ($9.22) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($9.22) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $9.22 pot ($0.46 rake)
      Final Board: 8 T 9 7 K
      CO showed A 8 J Q and won $8.76 ($4.18 net)
      Hero showed 6 J 9 J and lost (-$4.58 net)



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      Seat 1 is the button
      Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.38 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 24
      Seat 2: Player2 ( $11.33 USD ) - VPIP: 56, PFR: 34, 3B: 21, AF: 6.9, Hands: 126
      Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.61 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 1.6, Hands: 226
      Seat 4: Player4 ( $6.83 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 41
      Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.80 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 113
      Seat 6: Hero ( $4.00 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 24, 3B: 15, AF: 3.7, Hands: 816

        Merge, $0.02/$0.04 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13567912

        BTN: $1.38 (34.5 bb)
        SB: $11.33 (283.3 bb)
        BB: $5.61 (140.3 bb)
        UTG: $6.83 (170.8 bb)
        MP: $7.80 (195 bb)
        Hero (CO): $4 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 K 5 K
        UTG folds, MP raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.36, 3 folds, MP calls $0.22

        Flop: ($0.78) A Q J (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP calls $0.44

        Turn: ($1.66) 4 (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $0.88, MP calls $0.88

        River: ($3.42) 2 (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $2.32 and is all-in, MP calls $2.32

        Spoiler:
        Results: $8.06 pot ($0.40 rake)
        Final Board: A Q J 4 2
        MP showed 9 9 Q Q and won $7.66 ($3.66 net)
        Hero showed 7 K 5 K and lost (-$4 net)



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        07-25-2012 , 02:30 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Hackdeath
        No point jamming last hand, I doubt he b/f 2 pair+ that he decided to bet otr on this runout so call>jam imo.
        I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't b/f top two or a set there. I think if we decide it's +EV to call, it will usually be more +EV to raise. Hero's hand looks a lot like overpair / 2p when we get to river and check and when we c/r it makes no sense for us to have anything but 78 unless we have blockers and a kamikaze instinct.

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Olangotang
        Villain quite passive call stationy

        why bluff then?
        I think it's a good bluff vs anyone since we have very little sd value, have bet every street strong so far so straight or set is credible, so many draws missed and a passive player can also make some weak 2p or even strong 2p/set peels only to fold to big bet on river.
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        07-30-2012 , 06:04 AM
        Pokerihanska.com #444266014
        http://www.holdemmanager.net
        PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars Game#84041679086

        Galervo80 ($81.18)
        JUSTUS ($119)

        JUSTUS posts (SB) $0.50
        Galervo80 posts (BB) $1

        Dealt to JUSTUS********
        JUSTUS raises to $3
        Galervo80 calls $2
        [FLOP]($6)******
        Galervo80 checks
        JUSTUS bets $4
        Galervo80 calls $4
        [TURN]($14)********
        Galervo80 checks
        JUSTUS bets $13.50
        Galervo80 calls $13.50
        [RIVER]($41)**********
        Galervo80 checks
        JUSTUS bets $34
        Galervo80 calls $34
        JUSTUS shows********
        (Pre 53%, [FLOP]51.1%, [TURN]0.0%)

        Galervo80 shows********
        (Pre 47%, [FLOP]48.9%, [TURN]100.0%)

        Galervo80 wins $108
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        07-30-2012 , 08:48 AM
        ^ I also always tend to play high card quads, its just too ****** baller
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        10-02-2012 , 05:58 AM
        I'm bumping by an epic spew that turned an awesome session into ashes.

        The table was infested by TAGs (all but LAG SB). I had only PF stats displayed - 22/16/1.7 (150 hs), 87% fold to steal for BTN - but failed to look up that his BTN 3bet was 9.1% and flop cbet was merely 40%, hence my flop grave mistake - not donking (I was obv c/valueshoving).

        I vbet(/folded) the turn but an atrocious river came, still I thought his image was way too tight, WTSD/W$SD=29/70.

        Do I take it right that a timing tell contributed to my fail - I tanked like 5 sec before shoving (my previous actions were only a bit faster)? I normally take the same time before shoving for value, but this opp could be unaware of it.

        That wasn't the main factor ofc - it's more important that I wasn't repping the nuts, and BTN's range didn't contain 9-6 as he didn't shove the turn. I was too tired after 400 hands to think it over, alas there had been no clear signals for closing the session before this hand.

        Was the river bluff stupid? I thought my weak two pairs were basically air on this board, and there were two-pair hands to be folded out. I struggle with gutshot boards, think that I play them way too weak-tight and thus seek move-making spots - which ones do you find appropriate?

          Merge, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          CO: $79.53 (318.1 bb)
          BTN: $25 (100 bb)
          SB: $8.88 (35.5 bb)
          BB: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
          UTG: $13.43 (53.7 bb)
          Hero (MP): $30.74 (123 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 T 6 7
          UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.05

          Flop: ($6.15) 8 7 K (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN checks

          Turn: ($6.15) T (2 players)
          Hero bets $6.15, BTN calls $6.15

          River: ($18.45) J (2 players)
          Hero bets $18.45, BTN calls $15.95 and is all-in
          Spoiler:
          Results: $50.35 pot ($2.51 rake)
          Final Board: 8 7 K T J
          BTN showed A T 8 9 and won $47.84 ($22.84 net)
          Hero showed 8 T 6 7 and lost (-$25 net)
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          10-03-2012 , 06:09 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Mad Twatter
          Grabbed by Holdem Manager
          PL Omaha $1(BB)
          SB ($423)
          BB ($53.28)
          Hero ($161)
          UTG+1 ($162)
          CO ($120)
          BTN ($255)

          Dealt to Hero T 9 T 7

          Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, fold, BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $12, fold

          FLOP ($36) J 5 Q

          Hero checks, BTN checks

          TURN ($36) J 5 Q Q

          Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21

          RIVER ($78) J 5 Q Q 3

          Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero raises to $125 (AI), BTN calls $77.17

          Hero shows T 9 T 7
          (Pre 38%, Flop 59.0%, Turn 32.5%)

          BTN shows 4 K 2 K
          (Pre 62%, Flop 41.0%, Turn 67.5%)

          BTN wins $325
          WOW i HATE HIS PLAY THERE
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          10-05-2012 , 10:23 PM
          i guess the bluff was unccessfull, but the result wasnt?



            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14080172

            BTN: $265.80 (265.8 bb)
            SB: $220.11 (220.1 bb)
            BB: $215.79 (215.8 bb)
            Hero (UTG): $158.25 (158.3 bb)
            MP: $100 (100 bb)
            CO: $49 (49 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q T J T
            Hero raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $12.50, Hero calls $9.50, CO folds

            Flop: ($28.50) A 6 4 (2 players)
            BB bets $17.69, Hero raises to $42, BB calls $24.31

            Turn: ($112.50) 3 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $103.75 and is all-in, BB calls $103.75

            River: ($320) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $320 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: A 6 4 3 Q
            BB showed 8 7 J K and lost (-$158.25 net)
            Hero showed Q T J T and won $317.20 ($158.95 net)



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            12-17-2012 , 10:49 PM
            At first I was value betting then I knew he had a flush so I had to bluff. Note to self don't bluff this donk. What I find intresting is if he had bottom set I would have won. Did I play this bad? How come it wasn't believable or is he just a POW.





              Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15037981

              Hero (BB): $195.88 (391.8 bb)
              SB: $98.99 (198 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 5 7 A
              SB completes, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

              Flop: ($3) 7 9 2 (2 players)
              Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

              Turn: ($7) J (2 players)
              Hero bets $4.67, SB calls $4.67

              River: ($16.34) A (2 players)
              Hero bets $10.90, SB raises to $49.04, Hero raises to $163.46, SB calls $41.78

              Spoiler:
              Results: $197.98 pot ($0.50 rake)
              Final Board: 7 9 2 J A
              Hero showed 7 5 7 A and lost (-$98.99 net)
              SB showed 9 J 9 K and won $197.48 ($98.49 net)



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              12-17-2012 , 10:55 PM
              damn lol
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