Unsuccesful Bluff Thread - Page 4 - Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha

I'm clueless about SB's floating tendencies. If he's inclined to call with sets and flushes only, then my SDV is irrelevant and in my A-game I should fire all non-pairing rivers, but I was a coward playing my F-game as always and I planned it as a 1-street bluff vs JT, I was basically giving up otr, which is indeed a bad play.

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06-28-2012 , 12:54 PM

#77

coon74

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That's my most ridic bluff of the month (I'm optimistic saying that

). I'm happy to realise that this happened merely at PLO10 (I'm mixing it with PLO20). Countries are not shown on my tables, but from the SN of this completely unknown SB I was completely sure that he's Swedish, therefore I thought he 3bets far wider than AA...

€0.05/€0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13366762

BB: €23.66 (236.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): €9.90 (99 bb)
SB: €12.27 (122.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8

Hero raises to €0.35, SB raises to €1.15, BB folds, Hero calls €0.80

Flop: (€2.40) A

(2 players)
SB bets €2.40, Hero raises to €8.75 and is all-in,

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06-28-2012 , 01:46 PM

#78

Jabonator

nice piano there

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Fold pre.

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06-28-2012 , 06:29 PM

#79

hockeyhero31

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snapped on all streets.

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $147.45
UTG: $439.32
MP: $105.53
CO: $93.78
Hero (BTN): $249.05
SB: $267.63

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has 6

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, SB calls $1.50, fold

Flop: ($5.00, 2 players) 7

SB bets $4.78, Hero raises to $17.00, SB calls $12.22

Turn: ($39.00, 2 players) T

SB checks, Hero bets $26.00, SB calls $26.00

River: ($91.00, 2 players) K

SB checks, Hero bets $75.00, SB calls $75.00

Spoiler:

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06-28-2012 , 06:30 PM

#80

MastaAces

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coon74

Countries are not shown on my tables, but from the SN of this completely unknown SB I was completely sure that he's Swedish, therefore I thought he 3bets far wider than AA..

fair enough, but i don't think there's any realistic range that your shove is good vs regardless.

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07-03-2012 , 11:15 PM

#81

GoGetaRealJob

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Played this one on Stars vs Elglado, figured it would be a fun one for analysis. And also to hear if he already figured out my SN before this, lol

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13401562

Hero (BTN): $222.80 (111.4 bb)
SB: $730.40 (365.2 bb)
BB: $546.90 (273.5 bb)
UTG: $250.64 (125.3 bb)
MP: $294.92 (147.5 bb)
CO: $168.96 (84.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8

UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($21) 2

(3 players)
MP bets $15.05, CO folds, Hero calls $15.05

Turn: ($51.10) 5

(2 players)
MP bets $36, Hero calls $36

River: ($123.10) 5

(2 players)
MP bets $60.15, Hero raises to $165.75 and is all-in, MP calls $105.60

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07-03-2012 , 11:51 PM

#82

CZI

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I think you should have specific reasons not to raise the flop. And I don't like river, sure you've got blockers but you're only repping backdoored boats.

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07-04-2012 , 02:50 AM

#83

lifes3ps

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if hes not raising the flop hes surely got boats in his range....but villian probably wont give him any

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07-04-2012 , 08:41 AM

#84

Olangotang

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got snapped

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($520)
BB ($215)
CO ($212)
BTN ($191)

BB antes $0.40
CO antes $0.40
BTN antes $0.40
Hero antes $0.40

Dealt to Hero J

CO raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $21.60, fold, CO calls $15.60

FLOP ($46.80) T

Hero bets $26, CO calls $26

TURN ($98.80) T

Hero bets $97.30, CO calls $97.30

RIVER ($293) T 2

9 4

5

Hero bets $291, CO calls $67.64 (AI)

CO shows 6 2

6
(Pre 37%, Flop 30.2%, Turn 52.5%)

Hero shows J

K A Q

(Pre 63%, Flop 69.8%, Turn 47.5%)

CO wins $427

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07-04-2012 , 09:48 AM

#85

Jabonator

nice piano there

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That would tilt me to no end.

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07-04-2012 , 11:16 AM

#86

LazurusLong2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Olangotang

got snapped

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($520)
BB ($215)
CO ($212)
BTN ($191)

BB antes $0.40
CO antes $0.40
BTN antes $0.40
Hero antes $0.40

Dealt to Hero J

CO raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $21.60, fold, CO calls $15.60

FLOP ($46.80) T

Hero bets $26, CO calls $26

TURN ($98.80) T

Hero bets $97.30, CO calls $97.30

RIVER ($293) T 2

9 4

5

Hero bets $291, CO calls $67.64 (AI)

CO shows 6 2

6
(Pre 37%, Flop 30.2%, Turn 52.5%)

Hero shows J

K A Q

(Pre 63%, Flop 69.8%, Turn 47.5%)

CO wins $427

An "oh well call" Not enough left to fold...

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07-04-2012 , 01:27 PM

#87

Maffff

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River was the only street villain's play not horrific.

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07-04-2012 , 01:41 PM

#88

Olangotang

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($753)
BB ($261)
BTN ($446)

Hero antes $0.40
BB antes $0.40
BTN antes $0.40

Dealt to Hero K

BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $5, fold

FLOP ($15.20) 9

Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($15.20) 9

Hero checks, BTN bets $12, Hero raises to $46, BTN raises to $98, Hero calls $52

RIVER ($211) 9

Q 3

T A

Hero checks, BTN bets $180, Hero raises to $648 (AI), BTN calls $162 (AI)

Hero shows K 8

K 4

(Pre 56%, Flop 60.0%, Turn 0.0%)

BTN shows J

K J
(Pre 44%, Flop 40.0%, Turn 100.0%)

BTN wins $893

oops

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07-05-2012 , 11:09 PM

#89

hockeyhero31

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would like some input on this one. villian is arguably one of the biggest winners on this network.

888 Poker - $10 PL Hi - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $1,162.50
UTG: $350.00
Hero (BTN): $1,947.50
SB: $4,440.13

SB posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00, UTG posts DB $15.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero has K

UTG checks, Hero raises to $40.00, SB calls $35.00, fold, UTG calls $30.00

Flop: ($135.00, 3 players) K

SB bets $101.25, fold, Hero calls $101.25

Turn: ($337.50, 2 players) 4

SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($337.50, 2 players) T

SB bets $253.12, Hero raises to $1,050.00, SB calls $796.88

Spoiler:

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07-05-2012 , 11:27 PM

#90

Johan5390

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bet turrrrrrrn

and flop u could do smth different but depending on what u think of his tendencies/how much he barrels etc

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07-06-2012 , 07:09 AM

#91

CZI

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Very bad. You're never valueraising Q high flushes or worse there (quite possibly not even K high) and it makes no sense at all to call check back turn when you pick up nut/second nut spades when your hand was strong enough to peel flop.

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07-06-2012 , 04:52 PM

#92

yrmom

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Practice HU match vs Jussi

iPoker - $0.50 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players

SB: $48.75
Hero (BB): $76.35

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 9

SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) T

Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.00, 2 players) Q

Hero bets $6.99, SB calls $6.99

River: ($21.98, 2 players) J

Hero checks, SB bets $16.00, Hero raises to $65.36, SB calls $21.76

SB shows 3

(Full House, Queens full of Jacks) (Pre 40%, Flop 64%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 9

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 60%, Flop 36%, Turn 0%)
SB wins $96.50

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07-06-2012 , 05:29 PM

#93

zaskinen

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IGT Poker Network (Entraction) - €0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: €7.23
BTN: €7.81
Hero (SB): €12.10
BB: €4.00
UTG: €5.93
MP: €3.54

Hero posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (€0.06) Hero has Q

UTG calls €0.04, MP raises to €0.18, CO calls €0.18, fold, Hero calls €0.16, fold, UTG calls €0.14

Flop: (€0.76, 4 players) 2

Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets €0.38, CO calls €0.38, Hero calls €0.38, fold

Turn: (€1.90, 3 players) 9

Hero bets €1.90, fold, CO calls €1.90

River: (€5.70, 2 players) 4

Hero bets €5.70, CO calls €4.77 and is all-in

Spoiler:

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07-06-2012 , 07:48 PM

#94

sufletRBL

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zaskinen

UTG calls €0.04, MP raises to €0.18, CO calls €0.18, fold, Hero calls €0.16, fold, UTG calls €0.14

Flop: (€0.76, 4 players) 2

Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets €0.38, CO calls €0.38, Hero calls €0.38, fold

Turn: (€1.90, 3 players) 9

Hero bets €1.90, fold, CO calls €1.90

River: (€5.70, 2 players) 4

Hero bets €5.70, CO calls €4.77 and is all-in

Spoiler:

3bet pre?

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07-08-2012 , 02:39 AM

#95

onno

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1/2
Hero (€343) K

Villain €200)
Hero raises to 6,00
Villain Calls 4,00

flop(12,00)

A

Villain checks, Hero bets 9,00, villain calls

turn(30,00)
A

turn 7

Villain checks, Hero bets 22, villain calls

River (78)
A

Villain bets 56, hero shoves, Villain calls

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07-08-2012 , 05:12 AM

#96

coon74

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yrmom

SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) T

Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.00, 2 players) Q

Hero bets $6.99, SB calls $6.99

River: ($21.98, 2 players) J

Hero checks, SB bets $16.00, Hero raises to $65.36, SB calls $21.76

SB shows 3

(Full House, Queens full of Jacks) (Pre 40%, Flop 64%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 9

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 60%, Flop 36%, Turn 0%)
SB wins $96.50

Firstly, I'm very surprised that you didn't 3bet pre.

Secondly, I don't think this c/r could be successful because vs you (I mean your coaching/posting image, idk your real style ldo) I'd snap the turn w/trips and check the river with worse than QT.

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07-08-2012 , 01:42 PM

#97

crashwhips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Olangotang

got snapped

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($520)
BB ($215)
CO ($212)
BTN ($191)

BB antes $0.40
CO antes $0.40
BTN antes $0.40
Hero antes $0.40

Dealt to Hero J

CO raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $21.60, fold, CO calls $15.60

FLOP ($46.80) T

Hero bets $26, CO calls $26

TURN ($98.80) T

Hero bets $97.30, CO calls $97.30

RIVER ($293) T 2

9 4

5

Hero bets $291, CO calls $67.64 (AI)

CO shows 6 2

6
(Pre 37%, Flop 30.2%, Turn 52.5%)

Hero shows J

K A Q

(Pre 63%, Flop 69.8%, Turn 47.5%)

CO wins $427

bet less on turn for more fe brick rivers imo

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07-08-2012 , 01:52 PM

#98

crashwhips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CZI

I think you should have specific reasons not to raise the flop. And I don't like river, sure you've got blockers but you're only repping backdoored boats.

+1 flop and river not ideal probably, but it's not terrible, and taking lines like this from time to time will make you very tough to play against

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07-08-2012 , 02:37 PM

#99

yrmom

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coon74

Didnt 3b because it was early in the match and I had been 3balling a crapton already

The river c/r is pretty meh, it definitely doesnt make much money, but early in the match it sets up thin value river c/r's at least

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07-15-2012 , 08:47 AM

#100

DRoseMJD

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first of many entries

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13527812

BTN: $87.30 (87.3 bb)
SB: $133.43 (133.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $130.80 (130.8 bb)
MP: $154.57 (154.6 bb)
CO: $24.18 (24.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2

3 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 4

(2 players)
SB bets $4.29, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $9.71

Turn: ($34) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

River: ($82) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $49, SB calls $49

Results: $180 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4

SB showed Q

and won $177.20 ($87.20 net)
Hero showed 2

and lost (-$90 net)

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