PLO 5/10, Live cash game, 8 handed, buy in 500, rake 2%.
Cutoff Villain: loose aggressive (650)
BTN hero (seen as very tight) Q♦Q♣7♥7♠ (1000)
4 folds, Villain opens 35, Hero calls, SB and BB fold
Flop HU (85): K♥ Q♥J♠, Villain bets 50, hero raises to 200, UTG calls,
Turn (485) 3♦, Hero surprisingly bets all in (415). Hero?
What about Hero’s raise on the flop?

Just call flop, spr is too high to gii. As played we probably just fold turn.

I would not even consider raising this hand on the flop. He might fold T9 but that's the only merit (a hand he unlikely bets even). You bloat the pot vs KK/AT. You have a very good hand to call with.

On the turn he will mostly have AT, but if you think he can somehow have KQ+hearts or something like that you should of course call.

Raising flop is a big mistake, and fold turn.

Thank you all for your comments. Pls excuse my approximative English, it is not my first language.
It seems that all of you consider my raise on the flop a mistake. Granted, But let me make my point.
Facing villain’s flop bet my first thought was to call then another thought hits me, what’s the plan if the turn bricks and he automatically bet again? I will still be in the dark, therefore, to try to know where I stand and without further thinking I reraised, planning to fold if he reraises all in. If he just calls my flop raise, and checks the brick on the turn I will bet again.
As played, he called on the flop and surprisingly bet the turn. To call his all-in bet I need more than 30% chances to win on the river. I took my time to go thru his entire range which is:
- A straight with no improvement: he decided to go all in on the turn rather than on the flop because it is less risky if he’s been free rolled. Against this I have maximum 10 outs. It’s a fold.
- Set of kings: I am almost drawing dead.
- NFD with another Broadway card, I have around 70% chances to win.
I decided that the straight or the set of kings are the most probable villain’s hands. I folded. This guy tends to show his bluffs, he showed KK thinking he made me fold the non nut straight.

Never, ever raise to know where you are at! It's much better to "be in the dark", because your opponent is also in the dark. That is the nature of poker. You are in position, so your opponent is even more in the dark than you! After you call the flop, you can have AT, T9, set, fd+2pairs and so on. If he just blindly bets any turn it's very good for you, so don't raise and force him stop doing things he shouldn't be doing.

Pretty horrible play from villain also. I would not bet the flop and I would definitely not bet the turn.

Presumably you meant UTG surprisingly donked all in on the turn (it is written as hero makes that action). He probably has a straight and wanted to see a safe turn card. Raising flop is pretty bad. Your pot sizes are not accurate either. There should be 105 at least on the flop.

OP keeps mixing things up in his post, hence the confusion for everyone else. I believe the 'UTG' part is a mistake and only Villain (cutoff) and Hero (button) see the flop, which is why he states it is HU, so the pot of $85 is correct (5-sb, 10-BB, 35-H&V). Villain leads for 50, hero raises to 200, and villain calls (485 pot). Villain then donks turn for 415. I think lol?

Sorry for the mistake in my first post, It was clarified in my second. Villain is UTG, and he dong bets on the turn.
There is a consensus for the action on the flop: I should call not raise. So the action will probably be the following:
He bets on the flop, He has AT or T9 or KK or less likely AK+NFD. Now I call. Since I did not raise, He assumes that I don't have AT, the turn is a brick, he automatically bets. What now?

You fold.

You don’t beat value and any big bluffs he’s running likely have tons of equity vs you anyway.

Also, villain's assumption that you cannot have AT is simply wrong. If you think villain is bluffing way too much you can call with QQ again. Then on the river if you think he is still bluffing too much you can call with QQ for the third time. That is a lot better than raising the flop which forces him to stop bluffing and actually makes your hand a bluff.

Lots of stuff to learn from here IMO ..

1) Don't raise this Flop with only one way to improve .. and you're not blocking any other cards the will improve the Board.

2) 'Any' raise opens you up to be taken off your equity .. QQ is very strong but there are many holdings that should correctly re-raise and yet you are 'ahead' of currently. The issue is you still don't know where you are since the re-raising range is very wide with respect to this Board.

3) If you do raise, you don't need to raise 'so much'. A raise to $100-125 is plenty against this V's stack if you do plan on folding to a re-raise.

4) If Turn is a blank YOU DO know where you stand .. you have a set .. you have position .. and can take an easy Showdown or even call a reasonable bet on the River instead of putting in your whole stack and crossing fingers going to the River card.

While a set looks great, it's not so great on this Board. Your hand is strong so you need to Pot Control and hope to get to a 'reasonable' Showdown. Not every hand in PLO needs to be a circus.

It should be pretty easy to get to Showdown unless V has the Straight.

HOW IN THE WORLD would your opponent think that you folded the nuts on the Turn? Perhaps 9T considers a Turn fold, but if you are even considering a fold with AT here then you need to stop playing PLO. GL


PS .. I think your opponent made an error by Donk betting the Turn and letting you off the hook. You folded exactly the hand they need to stay in order to get value. In most cases the only hands calling the Turn shove are hands they are losing to .. AT/T9. There are plenty of PLO Players who think that QQxx is a snap call-off all-in, but in the long run when facing a Bet/Flat/Donk line they wll lose long term.