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12-18-2025 , 02:23 AM
2/2 live 8 handed

V goes crazy(repot/stackoff) with non nutted combo draws very often. His bets/raises are never pure bluffs, usually draws or strong linear range.

Hero is super nit, not sure if villain knows me enough. Think seen him around a few times. Hero has only played 1 other hand in the past 2 hours that villain was there.

Effective around 1200 vs villain, we cover the table.

Villain rock straddles to 10 in +1
2 limpers
Hero on btn opens to 45 w/J89T
3 callers including villain and limpers.

4way pot 180
Flop K67
checks to hero
Hero cbets 75
only V calls.

Hu pot 330
Turn 8
V donks 225
V has like 900ish behind.
Hero???
Do we just stick it in here?
Or slowplay?

Theoretically this is bad turn card for us? So we should flat it like we have kk/bdnfd?
Or just shove and pray?

Last edited by dangomango; 12-18-2025 at 02:42 AM.
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12-18-2025 , 04:11 AM
The way to look in this sort of spot as default is we want to have nut straight in both call and shove range. Thus question becomes what make more sense in which category in lowish SPR:

Call with stronger combos. Idea is kinda simple as we just need less protection with these. So with fd or perhaps our combo with fd blocker would be nice call. We still have redraw to higher straight.

Raise with weaker combos for protection and to avoid possibly folding best hand on certain rivers. Our combo would on my books go for this weaker part.

There is theory wise some mixing going on with these like some of smaller fd nuts we are more likely to shove than nfd etc. Also to point out this above applies especially for lower SPR situation. Deeper we are on turn this would become worse and worse approach as getting freerolled would be bigger issue. Also board pairing is lot worse for opponent range than ours after he calls turn and leads this river. Repping way more straights than two pairs or sets. Thus if board pair and villain check (as he should do with whole range more or less) we might want to shove almost everything in our range theory wise.

PS: If villain is really crazy button clicker extreme exploitative line would be pretty much to call turn with all of our nut straights and just call any river. Idea being to just give opponents all the chance to spew with some air balls. But pretty rare I would take this approach.
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12-18-2025 , 04:32 AM
I'm betting 100-125 on the flop. Some range advantage for us on this board.

Vs this villain as described, and unblocking clubs, I'm potting the turn.
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12-18-2025 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wazz
I'm betting 100-125 on the flop. Some range advantage for us on this board.
I got monsters under the bed syndrome from cbetting and getting x/r'ed every time we had a big draw.
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12-21-2025 , 09:16 PM
In game we potted.

Villain folded pretty quickly, saying he had 2pairs. Asking if we had "combo draws". I think he guessed we had combo draws because he plays combo draws this way which we've seen him often times getting money in with non nutted combo draws on flops in multiway pots.
Each time he's lucky his opponent didn't have any flush draws since his flushdraws were so small.

Tbh, I'm surprised he has a donking range on the turn even with two pairs. Obviously if he had a flush draw with his two pairs, he's never folding in a million years.
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