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Transitioning from uHUNL to uHUPLO Transitioning from uHUNL to uHUPLO

09-28-2010 , 11:48 PM
I'm being challenged to a mini-durrr challenge, but strictly PLO. I'm a NLHU reg and need help transitioning to HU PLO. Any advice from regs would be very helpful.

My biggest questions with my brief experience in PLO are:

-What's PLO equivalent to checking back showdown value?

-What's PLO equivalent to 3b'ing the top and bottom of your range (lol I just heard it and that sounds -EV in PLO), therefore what are typical 3b'ing ranges in PLO?

-If I wanted to start a check-raising dynamic, what should my range look like here and what board textures should I do it on, and how important are "blockers?"

-In HUPLO, where do average players tend to be most exploitable? (In NL, I find that there are tons of players who cbet too much, especially in 3b pots.

-And how the hell do you lay down an 8 high flush in HUPLO? LOL.
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09-29-2010 , 01:12 AM
i rarely check riase in hu plo alot of pots i three bet., so i cant three bet than CR. focus on three betting more than CRing.

small flushes are so dependent on villain can he three barrell etc.. i think hu plo u need to see your opponenets agression on turn/river see if he slows down. if he does and jus Cbets alot u can float so much and steal river pots

CR sets and big draws- 2 pairs with weak draws gut shots are goood. but everything is texture and ur oppoenent hard to really say do this or that imo. such a game of feel at the time- tilted opponenet deep stacks etc

but cool idea def post when u get it goin - id def be game to see how it turns out how many hands u playing, what limits, and how did he get u to go to hu plo when u play hu nl why not do 2 of both ?
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09-29-2010 , 04:44 AM
YOU NEVER THREE BET THE BOTTOM OF YOUR RANGE IN PLO if a hand to bad to call, just ****ing fold it.

average players tend to overplay ****ty draws where they are either somewhat flipping vs a strong made hand or absoluted dicked by a real draw.
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09-29-2010 , 04:54 AM
what you're asking is way too general and very board/opponent dependent. One thing I can say is that in PLO you generally don't want to have a polarized betting on any street before the river. You want to do very little pure bluffing before the river - the worst hands in you barreling/raising range should still have some equity when called
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09-29-2010 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 85off
but cool idea def post when u get it goin - id def be game to see how it turns out how many hands u playing, what limits, and how did he get u to go to hu plo when u play hu nl why not do 2 of both ?
The story is, I have an open challenge for a mini durrr challenge at HU 100NL. 2k hands, 2-4 tables, $300 side bet. I've blasted through two opponents and am up 4BI's after 1200 hands against my 3rd.

Anyhow, as you can imagine, the competition has dried up for NL. But a breakeven PLO player challenged me to PLO. I agreed at 50plo, 2k hands, $250 sidebet.

What's best about it for anyone who plays HU, is that you KNOW your going to play 2k hands. Any HU regs are use to hit and runners and guys who won't play you, but this brings such an interesting dynamic to the game knowing that you're in for the long run. (2k hands in NL is about 4-5 hours playing 2-4 tables)

And plus, since we likely won't continue playing each other after 2k hands, we get to swap notes and it just helps immensely for anyone playing small stakes.

To the point that it's almost +EV to lose... but hey, I don't know anything about losing
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09-29-2010 , 03:08 PM
What's a typical cbetting range in PLO look like?

What are you doing with one pair? Top, Middle, or Bottom?

Checking back small flush draws?

What spots are good to value bet thinly? Is vbetting top 2 when a flush card hits the river +EV? How about nut straight on flush board? etc. etc.
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09-29-2010 , 03:13 PM
FTP only has HUPLO at $.25/.50 and above. Do any sites (US players) offer lower? Would it even be worth playing micro stakes HUPLO considering rake? Any acceptable way to get some hands in HUPLO at micro-stakes considering rake?
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09-29-2010 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJR
FTP only has HUPLO at $.25/.50 and above. Do any sites (US players) offer lower? Would it even be worth playing micro stakes HUPLO considering rake? Any acceptable way to get some hands in HUPLO at micro-stakes considering rake?
I agree I wish there was a site that offered a wider selection of games at micro-stakes. HUPLO is a really interesting game but I don't want to go broke while trying to learn the dynamics.
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09-29-2010 , 04:46 PM
all of what you are asking is really generic. i would suggest just getting in some hands before the challenge to get a feel of the game and reading hu HH on here.
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09-29-2010 , 04:50 PM
its ahrd to say what a cbet range is. if u three bet u dont want to only bet hands u actually hit because u become predictable and get floated alot. basically imo only dont cbet hand u aboslutley brick but hit tons of hand ie akj10 on a 568 flop stuff like that, but imo if u three bet preflop or raise preflop and most hands u cbet. ill look up my stats to be sure of my cbet percent after session tho
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09-29-2010 , 04:57 PM
i think people know what boards they are more likely to get CRed on. and if u dont know, u will learn quickly i think 4 tabling ull notice if he is more passive which may allow u to get him chasing alot.

is there a rule for deep play?
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09-29-2010 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJR
FTP only has HUPLO at $.25/.50 and above. Do any sites (US players) offer lower? Would it even be worth playing micro stakes HUPLO considering rake? Any acceptable way to get some hands in HUPLO at micro-stakes considering rake?
absolute has 5c/ 10c
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