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the stuff of 2p2 wet dreams or puss or spew?  2/4 deep river CR bluff the stuff of 2p2 wet dreams or puss or spew?  2/4 deep river CR bluff

10-05-2010 , 02:00 AM
I think the flop is standard

CF river or CR to 500 is the question boys

This guys is ok, prolly average 2/4 reg

problems:
-thinks Im a lagfish spew tard
-I expect he would bet sets on the flop,but i do not have a read as to whether he would continue for a big pot or try and be trappy and let me flush up

pros:
-sets can def play this way, A4hh and AAhh
-this is a dream card
-meta
-despite thinking im a lagfish ****** he is aware that I have wide value ranges and can show up with hands as I have been raping the entire world


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.75 Ante - 6 players
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MP: $727.55
CO: $759.70
BTN: $852.40
SB: $379.25
BB: $202.45
Hero (UTG): $1100.45

Pre Flop: ($10.50) Hero is UTG with 9 8 6 7
Hero raises to $18.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $18.50, SB calls $16.50, BB calls $14.50

Flop: ($78.50) 3 4 6 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $68, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $68

Turn: ($214.50) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($214.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $128, Hero ??

Last edited by rand; 10-05-2010 at 02:15 AM.
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10-05-2010 , 02:34 AM
i don't see how the A is such a dream card, once you c/c the flop it doesn't help your range a whole lot. stuff like AA56 or A345, sure, but most of the time you have a flush draw or w/e.

the best part about your hand is the fact that you have a 6 blocker.

his river bet doesn't make a lot of sense; boats almost always bet the turn. his range is mostly gonna be A4, a straight going for thin value, or a bluff.

CRing is probably profitable but don't make it 500. ~$300 or so should do the job.
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10-05-2010 , 02:37 AM
him thinking you're a lagfish spewtard is obviously terrible for you. it kinda depends on *how* he thinks you're laggy, whether it's just been pre or if you've been caught bluffing a few times etc. if you've been caught bluffing, he's never folding a straight once betting and can potentially call with as little as the Ah.

also your UTG range doesn't have a lot of boats in it. depending on how good he is he may or may not realise that and call accordingly.

the more i think/talk about this hand the less i'm liking a raise
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10-05-2010 , 03:34 AM
flop might be a call but its def not standard
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10-05-2010 , 04:19 AM
From UTG I wouldn't have been in the hand in the first place??!

As played, with all that checking, a c/r on the river would reak of a missed draw to me. The only two made hands you would make this play with are 44xx and AAxx?
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10-05-2010 , 04:22 AM
Quote:
problems:
-thinks Im a lagfish spew tard
don't do it
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10-05-2010 , 07:25 AM
call
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10-05-2010 , 10:07 AM
definitely don't think flop is standard. if you are calling flop I prefer leading turn then evaluating river if called.

as someone else said, not really sure why you think river is a dream card; certainly you realize that the odds of you having AAxx or w/e hand combos you think the river helps goes down to almost zero once you c/c that flop.

with a spewy history/image, river is suicidal. I expect you get looked up by any straight and even random aces that decided to bet the river then happen to realize your line doesn't make a ton of sense.
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10-05-2010 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gordo16
definitely don't think flop is standard. if you are calling flop I prefer leading turn then evaluating river if called.

as someone else said, not really sure why you think river is a dream card; certainly you realize that the odds of you having AAxx or w/e hand combos you think the river helps goes down to almost zero once you c/c that flop.

with a spewy history/image, river is suicidal. I expect you get looked up by any straight and even random aces that decided to bet the river then happen to realize your line doesn't make a ton of sense.
somebody is up early

i dont know that I would or should cbet the nut flush draw in this pot. CC it seems better...

and Im saying the river is a dream card as far as bluff cards go. If I was behind a straight this is the best card to bluff...I think it catches up the most of my range is what Im saying
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10-05-2010 , 10:27 AM
what's your range?
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10-05-2010 , 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony James
From UTG I wouldn't have been in the hand in the first place??!

As played, with all that checking, a c/r on the river would reak of a missed draw to me. The only two made hands you would make this play with are 44xx and AAxx?
Wauw, ill advice man...
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10-05-2010 , 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rand
somebody is up early

i dont know that I would or should cbet the nut flush draw in this pot. CC it seems better...

and Im saying the river is a dream card as far as bluff cards go. If I was behind a straight this is the best card to bluff...I think it catches up the most of my range is what Im saying
in a single raised pot, people aren't just gonna auto put you on AAxx or something. when you c/c that flop, AAxx hands are almost completely discounted from your range. so as far as that river being a good bluff card goes, what hands are you really repping? A4/5/6/8x? that seems pretty thin for river c/r value as it is. fwiw, I think that a 7,9 or T would be way better bluff cards if you really wanted to c/r the river in the spot.

so basically, I just disagree that the river A catches up the most of your range.

edit: obviously you can still rep flopped sets turned boats/quads
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10-05-2010 , 11:01 AM
It all comes down to how light he's betting the river - if it's fairly wide I don't mind a CR even with your image but if he's skewed towards boats, I think he's looking you up way too often...
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10-05-2010 , 11:12 AM
Seems pretty suicidal
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10-06-2010 , 09:21 AM
fold fold fold
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