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10-11-2015 , 08:47 PM

#3001

thefatkidfromup

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 40

Why shouldn't we look at ev line? Isn't it suppose to be more accurate?

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10-15-2015 , 12:19 AM

#3002

doctorflush

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 530

Is this a fish play by me
Hero AcAs5c4s
Flop is kc 5s k d
Hero shove or fold
Hero shoved and loss
Ks5d7d2s
So tilting am I that bad to shove there

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10-15-2015 , 04:29 AM

#3003

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,307

Thanks for the informational post.

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10-22-2015 , 09:18 PM

#3004

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

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Originally Posted by thefatkidfromup

Why shouldn't we look at ev line? Isn't it suppose to be more accurate?

Because it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters are results. Saying "but I'm so unlucky" is an excuse. Make good decisions, continue to learn and don't blame variance. Just ride it out and don't look at your results for like 20k hands if it effects your play or mindset toward the game.

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10-27-2015 , 02:01 AM

#3005

de4df1sh

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

What is considered a an achievable winrate in a live 2/2 PLO game with 10% 5$ rake?

What is a "standard" downswing/upswing and what are recommended BR requirements for a full-time player?

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10-27-2015 , 05:54 AM

#3006

AA Suited

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,243

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Originally Posted by de4df1sh

What is considered a an achievable winrate in a live 2/2 PLO game with 10% 5$ rake?

What is a "standard" downswing/upswing and what are recommended BR requirements for a full-time player?

haven't got a clue what the winrate should be.

As for variance:
I'm breakeven after 2 yrs at one casino. (cant win with wrap and nfd.)
at another casino I'm up 5 figures after a year. (gutshots hitting left and right, flopped straight with no redraw holds.)

and 1/4 to 1/2 of the table is the same players at both casinos.

I only play like 10hrs/week (on weekends)

Last edited by AA Suited; 10-27-2015 at 06:07 AM.

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11-03-2015 , 11:01 AM

#3007

huberius

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 4

hi i have a question regarding winrates at bb/100. i play small stakes plo 5 handed.
last 17k hands:
btn: 83,21 bb/100
co: 79,91
mp+2: 63,53
bb: - 27,67
sb: - 18,82

what am i loosing in the blinds?

100 hands = 20 times 1 blind/ small blind posted -> correct?
so by folding every blind i loose 20bb/100 in the bb and 10bb/100 in the sb -> is this correct?
thanks for clarification.

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11-03-2015 , 11:12 AM

#3008

Rei Ayanami

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

BB: -100 bb/100
SB: -50 bb/100

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11-03-2015 , 11:39 AM

#3009

huberius

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 4

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

BB: -100 bb/100
SB: -50 bb/100

thanks for that clarification; my fault - so obv in the bb stat only the "bb hands" are counted

so do good players have an actually winrate in the blinds or just a lower loosing rate?

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11-03-2015 , 12:06 PM

#3010

Rei Ayanami

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

Lower loss rate. Yours look pretty damn good.

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11-03-2015 , 02:58 PM

#3011

ampx

journeyman

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 263

Pls teach a rookie..

Player 1: Ac Ad 10h Ks
Player 2: Jh Jd 10s 8h

Flop: Qd 9d Jc

Turn: As

River: ...

how come player 2 only had trips, I mean why can't Player 2 use 10s and 8h in his hand for a straight? How come its only trip jacks?

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11-03-2015 , 03:08 PM

#3012

OmahaFanatical4

banned

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5,123

player 2 has a straight. player 1 has a higher straight.

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11-03-2015 , 03:10 PM

#3013

thsheriff

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 199

I don't know where you got the hand from but player 2 flopped a straight, you're right.

Also, it's a set of jacks. Trips is when the pair is on the board; a set is when the pair is in your hand.

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11-03-2015 , 03:11 PM

#3014

ampx

journeyman

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 263

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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

player 2 has a straight. player 1 has a higher straight.

I must be blind, thanks bud

thanks sheriff

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11-03-2015 , 03:39 PM

#3015

OmahaFanatical4

banned

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5,123

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Originally Posted by ampx

I must be blind, thanks bud

thanks sheriff

no problem chief, if you need help with anything else just ask

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11-04-2015 , 01:53 PM

#3016

Kazama

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 217

Hi guyes,

Can you recommend me some good materials about how efficency learn to use ppt calculator for omaha hi?

Syntax is to difficult for me, i try to play with it but many outputs generates syntax error.

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11-04-2015 , 01:58 PM

#3017

Rei Ayanami

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

http://propokertools.com/simulations/generic_syntax

It's not that hard after you get the hang of it.

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11-14-2015 , 05:26 PM

#3018

Kazama

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 217

Hey again,

I am testing odds oracle by ppt, and have a problem with puting a hand type + flush (for example sd + fd).

real life example:

board
Ts7hQd
range (KJ9,J98) ,and my question, how should i change syntax to make add flush draw to it?

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11-14-2015 , 05:31 PM

#3019

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

(KJ9,J98):ss or whatever suit you want.

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11-16-2015 , 06:54 PM

#3020

jedinemesis

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 465

Quick question on PLO8 hand:

I've got KK42 rainbow. Preflop is six limps, a 2x bb raise by the bb, and everyone calls, so we're seven players to the flop.

Flop is Ax9

. Pot is $42.

Sb and bb check.
UTG+1 (aggressive) bets $30.
Two folds
Hero?

I have a gutshot wheel draw and a nut low draw. Do I call here or drop it in fear of being quartered? There are three players left to act behind me.

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11-16-2015 , 07:18 PM

#3021

Rei Ayanami

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

I think I'd call, but I really have no idea. Try the Omaha 8 subforum.

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11-17-2015 , 06:09 PM

#3022

ThePressure

adept

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 988

What's the best learning resource for someone who is an uber micro PLO PLAYER . Run it once ?

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11-17-2015 , 07:37 PM

#3023

Xptboy

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,131

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Originally Posted by ThePressure

What's the best learning resource for someone who is an uber micro PLO PLAYER . Run it once ?

best free resource: http://en.donkr.com/Articles/Categor...om-scratch!-14

Paid is RIO I guess.

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11-20-2015 , 07:55 AM

#3024

MasDezIre

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 19

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Originally Posted by ThePressure

What's the best learning resource for someone who is an uber micro PLO PLAYER . Run it once ?

Also a Noob! to PLO and working through 'PLO from Scratch' (linked above) and it is the best resource I have found so far for 6max. It often references Jeff Hwang's 'Big Play Strategy' which is also worth a read but it is aimed for the nittier live, full-ring environment and any info needed from it is noted in 'PLO from Scratch.'

GL,
MDI

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11-23-2015 , 04:31 PM

#3025

7th Lion

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 47

Since this topic is not something what is worth making a thread on and at the same time it answers the question of MANY beginner to semi-advanced players, the best place to throw this post is here.

Q: Is micro-stakes PLO ZOOM beatable?

A: Yes , it is. With very recent/up to date time (since 1.8.2015) , here is a graph of me (SN 7th Lion) having played 94K hands at PLO25z , the highest stake in micro-stakes group.