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07-16-2008 , 09:40 AM
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Sit full-stacked so you could have lost more


I'm still running up my roll but have been treading water now for like 2 weeks and its tilting the **** out of me
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07-16-2008 , 10:09 AM
I guess it wasnt a good idea to switch to plo when running horribly in all in-spots (down 20 buyins in equity over 30k hands in holdem). i dont have a plo tracker but i have surely added another 1000$ (10 bi) in lost equity yesterday. FU Ongame network. FU also for having no time bank function (though the software seems to have improved a lot recently).
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07-16-2008 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by plopro7
How is a set of queens drawing dead...u must run pretty friggin sick if so.
All the money went in on the river, thats how.
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07-16-2008 , 01:04 PM
so he was drawing dead to 6th street!
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07-16-2008 , 09:00 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $40.00
UTG: $112.25
CO: $87.35
BTN: $217.75
Hero (SB): $212.75

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J A A Q
1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $40.50, BB calls $39 all in, CO raises to $87.35 all in, BTN raises to $217.75 all in, Hero calls $172.25 all in

Flop: ($552.85) 2 6 5

Turn: ($552.85) 7

River: ($552.85) 8

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $552.85
BB shows Qs Jh 9d Td (a straight, Ten high)
CO shows 4s 5d Ks 3s (a flush, King high)
BTN shows 3c 9c Ac Ah (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows Js Ad As Qd (a flush, Ace high)


Sorry PhilGordonsHOTT! (Other guy with Aces.)

Qs Td 9d Jh 89577 23.76 271295 71.96 16120 4.28 0.259
As Js Ad Qd 45689 12.12 254900 67.61 76403 20.27 0.223
Ac 9c 3c Ah 51008 13.53 265701 70.48 60283 15.99 0.215
Ks 4s 3s 5d 114315 30.32 262677 69.68 0 0.00 0.303

K543ss being hugely +EV here just makes Omaha such a great game.

Last edited by Scary_Tiger; 07-16-2008 at 09:08 PM.
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07-16-2008 , 09:35 PM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $227.25
Hero (BTN/SB): $247.20

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with 2 9 7 8
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 8 K 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.55, BB calls $8.55

Turn: ($26.10) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25.60, BB calls $25.60

River: ($77.30) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $76.80, BB raises to $188.60 all in, Hero calls $111.80


It's fun playing a 950+ BB pot with quads. Gotta love his river "value" raise.
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07-16-2008 , 09:36 PM
What did he have?
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07-16-2008 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by roggles
What did he have?
Oh yeah, he shipped it in with #3, AAxx.
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07-17-2008 , 03:45 AM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $11.85
Hero (BTN/SB): $1001.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with 5 7 7 Q
1 fold


Obviously the only thing noteworthy is the stack size.
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07-17-2008 , 10:14 AM
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Sorry PhilGordonsHOTT!
you don't have to be sorry for this. he IS hot.
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07-17-2008 , 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $40.00
UTG: $112.25
CO: $87.35
BTN: $217.75
Hero (SB): $212.75

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J A A Q
1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $40.50, BB calls $39 all in, CO raises to $87.35 all in, BTN raises to $217.75 all in, Hero calls $172.25 all in

Flop: ($552.85) 2 6 5

Turn: ($552.85) 7

River: ($552.85) 8

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $552.85
BB shows Qs Jh 9d Td (a straight, Ten high)
CO shows 4s 5d Ks 3s (a flush, King high)
BTN shows 3c 9c Ac Ah (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows Js Ad As Qd (a flush, Ace high)


Sorry PhilGordonsHOTT! (Other guy with Aces.)

Qs Td 9d Jh 89577 23.76 271295 71.96 16120 4.28 0.259
As Js Ad Qd 45689 12.12 254900 67.61 76403 20.27 0.223
Ac 9c 3c Ah 51008 13.53 265701 70.48 60283 15.99 0.215
Ks 4s 3s 5d 114315 30.32 262677 69.68 0 0.00 0.303

K543ss being hugely +EV here just makes Omaha such a great game.
So should he fold here preflop (the other guy with aces, esp. since his aces succ)?

New to omaha but it seems like a reasonable fold :O
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07-17-2008 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TianYuan
So should he fold here preflop (the other guy with aces, esp. since his aces succ)?

New to omaha but it seems like a reasonable fold :O
Let's say the cards were up and the three of us all were all in and he could either call or fold with 12 dollars in the pot.

For the major sidepot with me, he will put in 125.40 to win 250.80, but he only has an expectation of getting 124.14, so that's -1$ in EV.

For the second sidepot threeway with K543ss he has to put in 48.35 to win 145.05, but he only has an expectation of getting 41.77, so that's another -6.5$ in EV.

For the main pot fourway he has to put in 27 to win 156, with an expectation of 33.54, so that's a positive 6.5$ in EV.

So even if he 3-bets, everyone turns their cards face up and moves all in, the expectation of calling all in with crappy aces is -1$. A lot of this has to do with the other two tards in the pot having all my outs, it kills one card from K-9 each and also four spades. Obviously not a good result for AAQJds with spades.

Another way to look at it would be if he assumed I had any AAxx, and the other two tards have a reasonable range of holdings. Then it would probably still be a call but who knows. There's no way to put me on specifically good AAxx or anything.
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07-17-2008 , 06:32 PM
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($4.90)
UTG ($20.55)
MP ($26.40)
CO ($16.65)
Button ($39.35)
Hero ($51.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 4, 4, J.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 4, K, 3 (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.45, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $1.45, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($4.40) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero raises to $10.2, MP raises to $24.7, Hero calls $14.50.

River: ($53.80) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $53.80


For some reason, converter not showing results. Villain obv had 33xx.

I rule.
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07-17-2008 , 11:51 PM
Been playing superb since moving up to PLO50, but I'm running god awful...

This is a cooler I know.. gah

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $52.00
UTG: $23.45
MP: $63.10
CO: $102.75
BTN: $204.00
Hero (SB): $57.85

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A T A 2
UTG raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG calls $9.25, MP calls $9.25, CO calls $9.25, BTN calls $9.25

Flop: ($55.50) 2 2 4 (5 players)
Hero bets $46.85 all in, UTG calls $12.45 all in, MP folds, CO raises to $91.75 all in, BTN folds

Turn: ($161.65) K

River: ($161.65) T

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $161.65
UTG shows 6d 5c 7c 4s (two pair, Fours and Twos)
CO shows 4c 3c 4d 6s (a full house, Fours full of Twos)
Hero shows Ac Tc Ad 2h (a full house, Twos full of Tens)
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07-18-2008 , 11:51 AM
that's why i am stuck (or i suck) @plo10


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $20.55
SB: $12.95
Hero (BB): $20.20
UTG: $6.00
MP: $2.65
CO: $4.60

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A T T 4
UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25) 4 J T (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.70, CO folds, BTN raises to $3.30, Hero raises to $11.80, UTG folds, BTN calls $8.50

Turn: ($25.55) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.10 all in, BTN calls $8.10

River: ($41.75) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $41.75
BTN shows Ad Kc 7s Qd (a flush, Ace high) 26% Equity on flop, nh!
Hero shows Ac Th Tc 4d (three of a kind, Tens)
BTN wins $39.75
(Rake: $2.00)
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07-18-2008 , 12:08 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $63.65
Hero (CO): $118.95
BTN: $57.50
SB: $77.70
BB: $134.40

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K 4 K 6
UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $3, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13.00) T 2 J (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12.35, BTN raises to $49.40, SB folds, UTG folds, Hero raises to $86.45, BTN calls $5.10 all in

Turn: ($122.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($122.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $122.00
Hero shows Kh 4s Kc 6c (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN mucks Ac 9s 8c Ah
Hero wins $120.00
(Rake: $2.00)



HA
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07-18-2008 , 04:13 PM
About 15 buy-ins below equity for my first 10K hands playing (mostly 2/4) PLOL... is this **** standard (serious question)?



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07-19-2008 , 12:15 AM
this has been fun...


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07-19-2008 , 01:30 AM
dont think i have ever tried the min raise c/r bluff before and i doubt i would have had i not seen blopps post a while back of that sick 3 bet bluff thing , pretty sure he had a straight type draw or 2 pair so i was happy
and its been ages since i posted here so thought might as well

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

LiianHapokas (BTN): $122.60
Hero (SB): $322.15
Klumanatti (BB): $42.50
magas82 (CO): $59.80

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J J Q 3
1 fold, LiianHapokas calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, LiianHapokas calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) A 8 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.55, LiianHapokas calls $8.55

Turn: ($26.10) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, LiianHapokas bets $20, Hero raises to $40, LiianHapokas folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $66.10
Hero mucks Jd Jh Qd 3h
Hero wins $64.10
(Rake: $2.00)
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07-19-2008 , 01:39 AM
try guessing this villains stats

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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ArseneLupin3 (CO): $187.40
violtt (BTN): $246.00
Me & Hancock (SB): $327.35
ELHUE (BB): $265.70
xxxxalexxxx (UTG): $36.75
Hero (MP): $239.30

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with A 3 A K
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, violtt raises to $12, Me & Hancock calls $11.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $49, violtt raises to $160, 1 fold, Hero raises to $239.30 all in, violtt calls $79.30

Flop: ($491.60) 7 A 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($491.60) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($491.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $491.60
violtt mucks 4h Js 2h 5s
Hero shows As 3d Ad Kc (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
Hero wins $488.60
(Rake: $3.00)




he was 15/11 over a decent sample lol
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07-19-2008 , 02:21 AM
eh I just lost a buyin with the nut flush to the straight flush, all in turn, he rivers the 1 outer. It was terrible I flop the nuts in a 3 bet pot with AA but noo.. fulltilt says nooo
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07-19-2008 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DMoogle
About 15 buy-ins below equity for my first 10K hands playing (mostly 2/4) PLOL... is this **** standard (serious question)?
Yea, unfortunately you can easily have runs like that (and worse) while playing well.
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07-19-2008 , 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSnort
try guessing this villains stats

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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he was 15/11 over a decent sample lol
i lol'ed hard, nh
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07-19-2008 , 06:48 AM
my fold button appears to be broken.

sigh.
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07-19-2008 , 12:05 PM
lol my shot at PLO50 cointinues to runt he same....

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $63.20
SB: $23.25
BB: $19.20
UTG: $53.35
Hero (MP): $50.90
CO: $40.20

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with A 9 9 T
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.50) 6 6 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, BTN folds, UTG raises to $24, Hero raises to $48.65 all in, UTG calls $24.65

Turn: ($104.80) 6

River: ($104.80) K

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $104.80
UTG shows 4d As 6d 3s (four of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows Ad 9c 9d Th (a full house, Nines full of Sixes)
UTG wins $101.80
(Rake: $3.00)
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