holy ****

time to learn NLH (ie. my money is now available to NLH grinders)



this kind of caps off another terrible session, only last 2 days where I lose half my profits.


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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gambit003 (BB): $25.00
jwc529 (UTG): $26.35
ALLINSNOWMAN (MP): $26.30
Sheerios (CO): $52.10
BUSTERab13 (BTN): $19.70
micktrix007 (SB): $86.75

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 4 8 7 7
jwc529 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Sheerios calls $0.75, 1 fold, micktrix007 calls $0.65, gambit003 calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.00) 5 2 7 (4 players)
micktrix007 bets $3, gambit003 calls $3, Hero raises to $15, Sheerios folds, micktrix007 raises to $51, gambit003 calls $21.25 all in, jwc529 calls $10.60 all in

Turn: ($78.45) J

River: ($78.45) 9

Final Pot: $78.45
gambit003 shows Tc As 2h Ks (a flush, Ace high)
jwc529 shows 4h 8s 7s 7h (a flush, Nine high)
micktrix007 shows 5c 8h 5d Jh (three of a kind, Fives)

great im 2500 BB below EV for the last 5k hands

good way to get back in the positives.

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SB: $28.25
Hero (BB): $49.65
UTG: $71.20
CO: $14.80
BTN: $33.50

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 9 8 5 9
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.75) 7 9 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.25) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: ($15.75) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $40, UTG raises to $63.45 all in, Hero calls $1.90 all in



and then 5 hands later (happy he was short)....

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Hero (MP): $44.60
CO: $31.80
BTN: $6.50
SB: $25.00
BB: $68.05
UTG: $11.20

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with 9 K Q T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) Q 9 Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2.65, BB folds, Hero raises to $6.75, BTN calls $3 all in

Turn: ($13.95) K

River: ($13.95) J

Villain is stevesbets:

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
2 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $653.50
BB: $1591.50

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with T Q T Q
Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero calls.

Flop: Q T 5 ($108, 2 players)
BB bets $108, Hero raises to $276, BB raises to $552, Hero raises all-in $599.5, BB calls.

Turn: J ($1307, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1307)


River: 6 ($1307, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1307)


Results:
Final pot: $1307
BB showed 9 K 9 K


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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
2 players
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Stack sizes:
SB: $1297.50
Hero: $1088.50

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 6 K J Q
SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, SB calls.

Flop: T 2 K ($180, 2 players)
Hero bets $120, SB calls.

Turn: 8 ($420, 2 players)
Hero bets $280, SB calls.

River: 2 ($980, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $750, Hero calls all-in $598.5.
Uncalled bets: $151.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2177
SB showed 3 2 7 8

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
2 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $1268
BB: $1586.50

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 4 J 3 K
Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero raises to $159, BB calls.

Flop: 5 Q 4 ($318, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $144, BB raises to $720, Hero calls.

Turn: 7 ($1758, 2 players)
BB is all-in $722.5, Hero calls all-in $404.
Uncalled bets: $318.5 returned to BB.

River: 5 ($2566, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $2566)


Results:
Final pot: $2566
BB showed 9 6 Q Q

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That's cool I guess, but from chat:

stevesbets: you are so monumentally terrible

and he happens to insta-leave w/o warning or "gg" and proceeds to play NLHE hu on another table. Class act imo.

looks like i am gooot @ one outer-ing, well, sort of at least

$0.05/$0.1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players

Stacks:
UTG ($12.80)
CO ($9.55)
BTN ($6.30)
SB ($56.70)
Hero ($11.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB J J 3 K
UTG raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: K A J ($1.40, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.35, BTN calls $1.35, SB raises to $6.75, Hero says "folding set", Hero says "no wai", Hero folds, UTG goes all-in $12.45, BTN goes all-in $4.60, SB calls $5.70

Turn: 7 ($32.25, 3 players)

River: J ($32.25, 3 players)
Hero says "gdasgbkjarbfnl�", Hero says "#", Hero says "#dabkn jbadfb", Hero says "#da�lsga�

Final Pot: $32.25

UTG shows: K A 9 A

BTN shows: Q 8 T Q

SB shows: 9 T 2 Q

UTG wins $30.65 ( won $17.85 )
BTN lost -$6.30
SB lost -$12.80
Hero lost -$0.35

If only it were like this always:

Think i'm getting the hang of it.

So, this pretty much sums up my day. Good lagtard table image as you can see, yet every time I held the second nuts I ran into the nuts. Couldn't even win the 80/20's against the table spewtard. And, oh yeah, A high flush runs into straight flush twice.


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MP: $44.80
CO: $31.29
BTN: $24.87
SB: $5.56
BB: $71.60
Hero (UTG): $26.96

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with A T K J
Hero raises to $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB raises to $3.40, Hero calls $2.55, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.65) 6 Q T (2 players)
BB bets $3.75, Hero raises to $18.90, BB calls $15.15

Turn: ($45.45) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.66 all in, BB calls $4.66

River: ($54.77) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

bubbled ladbrokes poker millon sat last night, AA obv no good.

OOOOOUCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHH! was that to get a seat!?!?! that ****ing sucks if so

nah, was the money bubble so i finished 5th, it still sucks when AA < QJ on a J72 flop

when we were 5 handed I felt that there was only 3 of us who could possibly win the ticket, sure enough the other 2 got heads up and the eventual winner was a local lad who plays nosebleed plo stakes online so i was glad to see him secure his seat. Its $1500+100 entry so it would be nice to make the money and get something back/give ammo for next week again.

The satty plays 6 max all the way through and we were playing 3 handed for a ridic long time with blinds eating through us while the other table remained 4 handed. Unf I went pretty card dead at this point. Anyway, there is always next time.

Well, your flop/turn play in hand 3 was basically total FPS and signifigantly -EV over just getting it in on the flop given the stack sizes, but stevesbets is pretty terrible imo and is the second biggest HU loser over the last month or so in my db.

I've also seen you hit and run when a 6max table goes HU so it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

I usually play $25 PLO but decide to take shot at a $50 table and this hand comes up only a few hands in. When all the money goes in on the flop, I either win or tie 99% of the time... lose 1%. Of course, I run so good........

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $89.50
BTN: $104.15
Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $78.70
UTG: $49.55
MP: $47.70

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with T 6 9 7
3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) 6 8 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.45, BB folds, BTN raises to $5.80, Hero raises to $18.85, BTN raises to $58, Hero calls $30.15 all in

Turn: ($99.50) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($99.50) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $99.50
BTN shows 7 3 3 T (a full house, Eights full of Threes)
Hero shows T 6 9 7 (a straight, Six to Ten)
BTN wins $96.50
(Rake: $3.00)

this game isn't fun anymore, need a break

Seems pretty inconsequential to me. After his flop repop we're getting all the money in on any turn. The only exception is if he's bluffing with bare Ah. I call w/ the slight possibility he continues that on the turn... he's not calling my reraise on the flop with it.

I'm not sure what you mean about a 6max table going heads up. If you mean after I've won a bunch at a 6max table and then all but one player leaves at which point I sit out, it's certainly because a) I prefer 6max when multitabling, b) the person left sitting is too strong to be worth playing. This seems pretty standard in the world of 6max. I don't feel I owe them an explanation for why the table broke up, and I certainly don't berate them in chat.

WTF are you talking about? There's loads of ways of playing that flopped flush, that way is fine, especially against someone as aggro as stevesbets. Total FPS can be justified and +EV when you have a read and previous dynamic.

And there's no blanket commitment to carry on playing if the table goes shorthanded.

He has less $700 left in a $1700 pot on the turn. Calling the flop is 100% FPS. Stevebets is aggro but he's not dumb enough to shove the bare Ah giving his opponent 3.5:1 after he flatted a big raise on the flop.

You are free to leave poker tables whenever you want. However, it is exceptionally bad etiquette to play 10 hands after a table has gone HU, win a decent pot, then instantly sit out while you are still sitting in on all your other tables. Vetiver has done this many times when I was both playing and sweating. I've also seen him obviously slowroll on at least two occasions and blame it on a bad connection. It makes me more than a little angry when the games go bad because some douchebag is twelve tabling and making every effort to make the game not fun for fish.

i think i will quit plo. the variance is too high. i cant play as much i had to, to eliminate variance. it eats me up. im more than 30BIs blow expectation over the last 20k hands. its just no fun to see AAKTss losing vs QQ83 preflop. ill stick to roulette.

at least with roulette its sure i lose

He's calling a flop reraise with any flush and any set. He (and I) are getting it all-in on any turn card. There's no disadvantage to flatting the flop raise, only the benefit of the very small possibility he pushes two pair or bare Ah on the turn. What do I lose by flatting flop?

I can guarantee there are plenty of times in which I lose a big pot or many little pots and sit out. Naturally, if I don't have an edge or my opponent is running hot why am I going to play them at a game (game = HU) I'm not particularly good at? It's hilarious to think that I insta-sitout any time I win a big pot vs. somebody because it suggests I may have an edge on my opponent and increases the likelihood they're tilting or playing poorly under the stress of losing. Momentum is valuable in this game, so etiquette aside and for purely selfish reasons I make an effort to keep playing after winning a decent pot.

I think you're misrepresenting the frequency with which I do this, or you're bitter after it happened to you once. I don't know your FTP sn but assuming you're solid I probably quit you a lot if a table wound down to two players. Maybe it's both.


Wtf dude? Is this Invent Empty Accusations Day? I never slowrolled anybody and don't ever recall somebody saying "thanks for slowroll" or anything of the like which would have prompted me to apologize and say sorry for the bad connection. Clearly playing 10 tables I can't snap call every time I make the nuts, but I do it ASAP because timing down is hugely -EV ... nothing to gain and can only have something terrible happen (disconnect for instance).

If you're referring to a time in which we're at flop or turn and I click time bank and then time down to just before the time bank is activated and then shove with the nuts, this would be balancing my timing ranges and making my opponents think that I'm torn on my decision. It may cause them to call with inferior, dominated hands where they otherwise might not if I snap shoved.

Sorry dude. Give me a few weeks to learn to juggle, jest in 5 different Euro languages and prepare the appropriate smilies to enter into chat everytime a fish wins a pot.

I make every effort to keep the game "fun" for the fish, which for me includes never berating them and sometimes engaging in friendly chat if they seem talkative. When they make a stupid play but thought their straight was good on a flush board and complain about how messed up it was, I'll tell them "unlucky" or "nothing you can really do there". The fish are obviously the key to a grinder's bottom line.

Anyway, I've spent enough time being apologetic and trying to defend my image. If you want to talk **** about things that I do at the poker table do it on FTP chat so we can identify the problem and I can laugh at you for being so bitter.

Hu4rollz !!!

but srsly, thats what PMs are for..

The number of times Stevesbets shoves the turn there with a hand he would have folded the flop with is probably about equal to the number of times you accidentally disconnect the turn because you have seemingly terrible internet.

If I walk out on the street and take a massive dump on the sidewalk once a day or once a year, the only difference is the former makes me more of a douchebag than the latter. Whether it's intentional or not, you have instantly sat out against me on multiple occasions after playing more than 5 min of HU, often after you just won a decent sized pot.

My main PT database is 3000 miles away atm while I'm in the US, but I watched you slowroll the nutflush on the river for 30s on unpaired non-SF board while you were actively playing other tables. A couple days later I say you do it again with quads. Both times you were calling your opponents last bet.

I'm not talking about 5-10s to notice it's your action on a table and act, it was at least 30s each time and the second time the player said 'nice slowroll' and you responded with 'ty'. One of my notes at home on you is 'Slowrolls fish'.

I would be very happy if you learned to multitable without slowing down every table you're at, that seems unlikely though as you've been at it for months and are still doing it.

Sure. Any time *I* need a good belly laugh I'll just watch your ridiculous HA session against Tutankhamen the other day.

If someone calls me out as a douchebag who slowrolls people and chases away fish, I'd like to address it publicly so 2+2 PLO forum doesn't think I'm an *******.

Nevermind. Your bitterness is funny enough from afar.

vetiver: this was more adressed to therempel than you.

Guys, cant you just kiss and hug ?

also: i played with vet numerous times and havent seen inapropriate behaviour.

rempel, whats your SN? and i didnt know you from england(assuming from the 3k miles thing)