no strat in bbv plz

Totally fair. Was honestly feeling a bit self-conscious about that.

Please accept what I think is a very BBV-appropriate giraffe as an apology: my cash year to date, not including a significant amount of Global volume for obvious reasons. (Thank goodness I actually ran okay on Global.)

this subforum is all but dead and we get one legit post and ur gonna really be like this huh?

No bbv strat in bbv plz.

hey guys

are there any threads sites about PLO rake comparism in 2019/2020? I tried google but i am looking more like bb/100 rake stats.
Donked around with some $ at Stars (where i usually dont play) and couldnt really believe that rake is that high.

at plo5z i had something like 14BB/100 rake over 35k+ hands. PLO10z should be a little higher, maybe 15%, and PLO25z could be something like 5z when you play very deep a lot

1/2 is a strange limit , You get a wider variety of players , and when your playing zoom it’s harder to know who’s who , and I always find myself just mashing buttons which doesn’t go well , it’s probably one of the worst limits for rake aswell , il try get my stats for last couple months , the rake is probably ridiculous , played hu a bunch aswell and vs just regs I doubt many can have a big win rate

Did you play 58/30/10 or something?

The rake cap on PS is wierd. 15BB for PLO2, 20BB for PLO5 and 15BB for PLO10.

50/33/12 at only regular tables (no antes nor zoom)
so rake is like 40bb/100 playing this aggro/loose

thats really weird/ridicoulos

on stars sixmax plo micros potsize at PLO2 has to be 385BB, at PLO5 513BB and at PLO10 353BB, at PLO25 188BB to hit the rake cap. so PLO2-10 is basically uncapped

I just threw up in my mouth looking at those pot sizes in BB needed to reach the cap. It is insane.

It also presents a pathway to solving the micro stakes mess if we could get those numbers cut down considerably. But that is mostly been a pipedream.

i remember back in the day when stars had a rep here and we were discussing PLO micro rake on this forum for a player-rep-company meeting and I was emphasizing the insanity of the rake caps but everyone was really focused on the %. I take the 5% over the 4.25% if the caps would be something modest any time. i believe if a regulated gambling company is offering a game it has to be somewhat beatable. a 15BB/100 rake is somewhat unbeatable though

WPN is adding 25PLO blitz tables tomorrow US time.

hey guys whats the worst 2 gappe hands you recommend for begginers to play FR? would it be T985?


also I just think 2 gappers arent worth playing if its gapping your highest card, can someone briefly explain tome their thoughts on 2 gap hands to a basic noob?

Jeff Hwang's first book "The Big Play Strategy" is still probably the best starting point for new players asking a full ring gap question like yours. There was also an online blogger named "Bugs" that did a "PLO From Scratch" series of articles that built on Jeff Hwang's work, but were for 6-max online games. You might need to buy Hwang's book or maybe find a copy in a library (it is an old book, but answers your questions perfectly). Bugs articles can be found for free with a web search.

Also your questions don't mention the position of the player. You start off tight under the gun and open your range as you move towards the button.

thank you, can you give me your brief points and thgouhts of double gapper hands? I have both the from scatch series and hwangs book

Let me make an example and go from there.

JT98 has no gaps

Jxx7 will have one gap

Jxx6 will have two gaps

For 2 gap hands, you could play Axx9, Kxx8, Qxx7, Jxx6 and if it is a 2 gapper at top only do AJT9 and KT98. And for clarity by 2 gapper I mean both one gap of two cards (AJT9 & KT98 the only 2 top gap hands to play) and two gaps of one card. This is sounding convoluted, but if the 2 gap is anywhere but top two, then go down to Jxx6.

Full ring PLO can be played extremely tight if you like and is a damn good way to learn the game and stay out of trouble. Plus playing too many hands in a high rake environment is bad news. Key in on Hwang's section on counting flop straight outs and only widen your preflop range when you can comfortably count straight outs and nut straight outs.

When I play live, I usually play Omaha high low because the PLO high game with $5/10 blinds is outside of my comfort zone. But the tables are right next to each an I rail the game. If you disregard the cooler hands that will balance themselves out in the long run, most huge pots are won by someone free rolling a better straight redraw.

The pleasure, you cross posted in BBV and Aesah's live thread, I mistakenly thought I was posting in live thread, BBV is more no strat, if a mod reads this please move to Aesah's live thread. The pleasure, any other live questions ask over in that thread.

My bad guys.

I don think anyone will mind.
thank you for your response

see my problem is I feel like 2gapper hands are mostly unplayable.

especially if the gapper is on the high end like Q987

can you give me some OTHER ranges of 1 and 2 gaper hands you will often find PLAYABLE at a rather solid table? like the worst gap type hands you would play. I know you already gave an example or two but if you coudl give 1 or two more that would be awesome too

Google "plo from scratch".
Read it.
Profit.

Gaps at bottom or even one in the middle are fine, at top are always bad. Suitedness is important but without nut suit less so. You really wanna be HU without nut suits since you are less likely to be coolered when you make your flush. Oops, sorry, wrong thread for this. Gl.

The pleasure, hop over to the Aesah's live PLO thread and I'll write a little bit.

Just sharing a fun end to the year.



Good luck in 2020 people.

edit: he has AJ, not AA

wut website bruh?

same here this is why iam do not like zoom.