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10-02-2016 , 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albert Socrates
I'm still learning PLO 101. Maybe it's because I was tripping on acid, but listening to a vaporwave mix on the background while watching a Phil Galfond video gave me a feeling of pure bliss, a perfect harmony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CbpnNNMGgA

Phil Galfond does have a soothing voice.
Vaporwave music is great and so are the visuals/artwork. Btw good avatar choice, EWS is one of my favorite movies.
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10-02-2016 , 05:30 PM
Brokeness. Waiting for loan to come. Had like 300 on stars and went busto on a single session.
C u next week at zoom . All fl.
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10-02-2016 , 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by girlieburger
Brokeness. Waiting for loan to come. Had like 300 on stars and went busto on a single session.
C u next week at zoom . All fl.
Gl running up a loan while beating rake and interest, that's the dream
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10-02-2016 , 06:24 PM
* all good luck
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10-03-2016 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Pokerstars
.......

All this Euro to USD conversion is making my head hurt
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Can anyone help me determine BB/100 rake for this site? Is the rake beatable at lower stakes?

This is BetOnline/TigerGaming rake structure. I saw some discussion here about the best place to play and didn't know where else to look.

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10-03-2016 , 05:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tofurocks
I tried to bluff this guy in another deep pot after this hand and got called all the way down with trash and lost, I'm so tilted by how stupid it was

GTECH G2 (Boss) - C$0.30 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 162.6 BB (VPIP: 83.14, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.45, Hands: 5,184)
Hero (UTG): 236.2 BB
MP: 88.63 BB (VPIP: 59.89, PFR: 4.01, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 351)
CO: 128.93 BB (VPIP: 34.87, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 522)
BTN: 96 BB (VPIP: 53.64, PFR: 0.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1,724)
SB: 273.97 BB (VPIP: 74.20, PFR: 23.28, 3Bet Preflop: 2.90, Hands: 1,762)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 7 4 7

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, CO raises to 15.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 14.5 BB, Hero calls 12 BB, MP calls 12 BB

Flop: (62.5 BB, 4 players) 2 8 7
BB checks, Hero bets 44 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 44 BB

Turn: (150.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 150.5 BB, BB calls 103.1 BB and is all-in

River: (356.7 BB, 2 players) Q

BB shows A 9 9 2 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 57%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows J 7 4 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 346.7 BB
Easy call with dem BLOCKERS
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10-03-2016 , 12:31 PM
US players!

what are your thoughts on this "MO MO MO PLO" promo that ACR is running 10/8-10/14?
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10-03-2016 , 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Why do so many people still play below 50plo on Stars when the rake is so much less on Unibet and Microgaming??
dimelo papiii braaa which want u think is better in microgaming im having a hard time to find a skin. btw i enjoy your POOOOODCAST a lot men keep it up talk to jeans89 maybe he can help u to bring isildur1 I saw a post of isildur1 and many times he say he loved his fans their fans would be very happy to see him i guess or he was trolling dont know men but will be awesome 4 sure.

PD: pkr i hate hand replay men is imposible to see.
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10-04-2016 , 01:22 PM
These sort of runouts tilt me so hard


    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37446831

    BTN: $62.93 (251.7 bb)
    SB: $27.68 (110.7 bb)
    BB: $127.90 (511.6 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $25.10 (100.4 bb)
    MP: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
    CO: $130.55 (522.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K J 4
    Hero raises to $0.75, MP raises to $2.60, CO folds, BTN calls $2.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.85

    Flop: ($8.15) 2 6 K (3 players)
    Hero bets $6, MP raises to $24.27 and is all-in, BTN raises to $60.33 and is all-in, Hero calls $16.50 and is all-in

    Turn: ($79.19) K (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    River: ($79.19) A (3 players, 3 are all-in)

    Results: $79.19 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: 2 6 K K A
    BTN showed 7 4 9 3 and lost (-$26.87 net)
    Hero showed A K J 4 and lost (-$25.10 net)
    MP showed A A 8 T and won $77.19 ($50.32 net)



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    10-04-2016 , 03:22 PM
    I can beat that

      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37446850

      BTN: $32.40 (129.6 bb)
      SB: $38.64 (154.6 bb)
      BB: $49.17 (196.7 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $28.84 (115.4 bb)
      MP: $8.04 (32.2 bb)
      CO: $127.19 (508.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A 2 3
      Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

      Flop: ($2.05) 7 9 K (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

      Turn: ($4.65) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.45, BTN raises to $17.80, Hero raises to $26.69, BTN calls $8.89

      River: ($58.03) K (2 players)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $58.03 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 7 9 K A K
      BTN showed J 5 K K and won $56.03 ($27.19 net)
      Hero showed A A 2 3 and lost (-$28.84 net)



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      10-04-2016 , 03:23 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by icomefromchaos
      US players!

      what are your thoughts on this "MO MO MO PLO" promo that ACR is running 10/8-10/14?
      you don't get your flat rakeback 27% while you're clearing the bonus $, and the bonus you accrue during the promo period is returned as a clearable bonus following the period, making it better than the rakeback but not by much? Unclear someone could run the #s. I'm not excited about the promo $$ but the tables will be softer for sure. Altho i'm taking a break following -14k in 10 days.
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      10-04-2016 , 03:35 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by XFlopRRiver
      you don't get your flat rakeback 27% while you're clearing the bonus $, and the bonus you accrue during the promo period is returned as a clearable bonus following the period, making it better than the rakeback but not by much? Unclear someone could run the #s. I'm not excited about the promo $$ but the tables will be softer for sure. Altho i'm taking a break following -14k in 10 days.
      just come back playing you're A game and you'll bounce back with a quickness!
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      10-05-2016 , 10:14 AM
      Didn't realize they were doing that promo again. Curious if it's worth depositing on the site again for it. I would imagine the tables would be pretty damn soft during it. I took all my money off the site 6 months ago and haven't regretted it at all.


      Starting to ramp my play up a little now. Trying to get 10 hours in a week, so far it's going well. With the forced switch to ignition and the sports betting breaking off I expected the games to dry up a little but I am pleasantly surprised. I asked a bunch of whales where they were playing the last few days before the end of the month and they all told me ignition so I'm hoping things stay status quo.
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      10-05-2016 , 12:38 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Ankimo
      I can beat that

        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37446850

        BTN: $32.40 (129.6 bb)
        SB: $38.64 (154.6 bb)
        BB: $49.17 (196.7 bb)
        Hero (UTG): $28.84 (115.4 bb)
        MP: $8.04 (32.2 bb)
        CO: $127.19 (508.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A 2 3
        Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

        Flop: ($2.05) 7 9 K (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

        Turn: ($4.65) A (2 players)
        Hero bets $4.45, BTN raises to $17.80, Hero raises to $26.69, BTN calls $8.89

        River: ($58.03) K (2 players)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $58.03 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: 7 9 K A K
        BTN showed J 5 K K and won $56.03 ($27.19 net)
        Hero showed A A 2 3 and lost (-$28.84 net)



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        These sort of runouts are the worst for tilting me. Going from huge fave to drawing die, to binking. The rollercoaster is not fun.


          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37447985

          Hero (BTN): $13.84 (138.4 bb)
          SB: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
          BB: $11.06 (110.6 bb)
          UTG: $4.12 (41.2 bb)
          MP: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
          CO: $10 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J 9 9
          2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 2 folds, CO raises to $3.30, Hero calls $2.25

          Flop: ($6.75) 6 3 9 (2 players)
          CO bets $6.46, Hero raises to $10.54 and is all-in, CO calls $0.24 and is all-in

          Turn: ($20.15) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: ($20.15) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Results: $20.15 pot ($0.86 rake)
          Final Board: 6 3 9 A 9
          Hero showed J J 9 9 and won $19.29 ($9.29 net)
          CO showed J A A 8 and lost (-$10 net)



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          10-05-2016 , 01:21 PM
          that moment when you flip vs top set on the turn with huge draw


            Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            UTG: $18.18 (72.7 bb)
            MP: $22.19 (88.8 bb)
            CO: $6.92 (27.7 bb)
            Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
            SB: $40.32 (161.3 bb)
            BB: $25 (100 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 8 J 6
            UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

            Flop: ($2.80) T Q 3 (3 players)
            SB checks, UTG bets $1.79, Hero calls $1.79, SB calls $1.79

            Turn: ($8.17) 2 (3 players)
            SB checks, UTG bets $7.82, Hero folds, SB raises to $15.64, UTG calls $7.72 and is all-in

            River: ($39.25) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Results: $39.25 pot ($1.67 rake)
            Final Board: T Q 3 2 4
            UTG showed 9 A J K and lost (-$18.18 net)
            Hero mucked 9 8 J 6 and lost (-$2.64 net)
            SB showed 3 A K J and won $37.58 ($19.40 net)


            but get crushed by 2nd bottom pair + draw
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            10-05-2016 , 04:46 PM
            Is .10/.25 zoom the nittiest of the pools in micros and small stakes?
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            10-05-2016 , 04:55 PM
            That hand is actually pretty funny Bari83 Good disciplined fold by you btw. The hand reminds me of a hand Gus Hansen played on "gustv" like five (maybe more, six-seven) years ago. He was playing HUPLO against who I thiiiink was urindanger and on the flop he was like "well, we have a wrap and 2nd bottom pair. Let's get it in and hope he has the same wrap but with the very bottom pair"
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            10-05-2016 , 05:23 PM
            That was one of the first things I learned was how strong a pair+wrap is in GII situations. I can't the number of times I'll have a pair and a dominating wrap or pair + same wrap as them and GII and I win off the pair.

            Since this is BBV I had a hand from sunday night.

            PLO100 american sites, both utg and sb were mega station whales if they hit a pair on the flop or better they didn't own a fold button.

            UTG limps for 1, folds to sb who calls, hero is dealt T997 who raises to 4, utg calls, sb calls

            Flop: 986 (Pot 12)
            sb checks, hero bets 12, utg calls, sb folds

            Turn: 5 (pot 36)
            Hero bets 36, UTG raises to 84, hero raises to 210, UTG raises to 290 and change and is all-in, hero calls (covers)

            River: Q

            Hero has 9 high flush
            UTG shows J853 and has J high flush and wins all the money.

            Next hand is dealt, UTG is now BB and sits out. Hero cries.

            Edit: if you wonder how he got such a big stack that was courtesy of me a a few hands earlier were he cold called my 4-bet and GII on the flop with a naked gutshot to my aces with a fd and he hit.

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            10-10-2016 , 01:50 PM
            Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            Hero (BTN): $7.76
            SB: $2.54
            BB: $20.01
            UTG: $9.24
            MP: $5.00
            CO: $14.61

            Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 6 6 T
            3 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

            Flop: ($0.39) J 3 A (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, SB calls $0.19

            Turn: ($0.77) 6 (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks

            River: ($0.77) 2 (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero bets $0.05, SB folds

            Final Pot: $0.77
            Hero mucks 9 6 6 T
            Hero wins $0.74
            (Rake: $0.03)

            Always bet as little as you can when bluffing and as much as you can when value betting
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            10-10-2016 , 02:14 PM
            that were no bloof
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            10-10-2016 , 03:55 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Panaan
            Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            Hero (BTN): $7.76
            SB: $2.54
            BB: $20.01
            UTG: $9.24
            MP: $5.00
            CO: $14.61

            Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 6 6 T
            3 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

            Flop: ($0.39) J 3 A (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, SB calls $0.19

            Turn: ($0.77) 6 (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks

            River: ($0.77) 2 (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero bets $0.05, SB folds

            Final Pot: $0.77
            Hero mucks 9 6 6 T
            Hero wins $0.74
            (Rake: $0.03)

            Always bet as little as you can when bluffing and as much as you can when value betting
            Please explain? Because I see people do this to me and it NUKES MY MIND when they minbet river with a hand that in every sensible scenario should want a showdown and definitely not want anything but a showdown


            again PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE. Inducing a suicide bluff?
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            10-10-2016 , 05:35 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by BigNickDigga
            Is .10/.25 zoom the nittiest of the pools in micros and small stakes?
            Not at all.
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            10-10-2016 , 06:43 PM
            That prize goes to $1/$2 zoom
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            10-10-2016 , 09:44 PM
            Do people know they're calling with essentially a 8high flush draw here? I guess chop outs for the same gutter.


              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37460055

              BTN: $7.81 (78.1 bb)
              SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
              BB: $17.48 (174.8 bb)
              UTG: $9.46 (94.6 bb)
              Hero (MP): $63.54 (635.4 bb)
              CO: $11.93 (119.3 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 3 K K
              UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

              Flop: ($0.90) 2 4 6 (3 players)
              SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB folds, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

              Turn: ($4.90) T (2 players)
              BB bets $3.80, Hero raises to $16.09, BB calls $11.38 and is all-in

              River: ($35.26) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $35.26 pot ($1.50 rake)
              Final Board: 2 4 6 T Q
              BB showed 3 6 8 7 and won $33.76 ($16.28 net)
              Hero showed 5 3 K K and lost (-$17.48 net)



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              10-11-2016 , 12:42 AM
              your underestimating his equity. He has more than you think, he's double gutter and the flush draw. Not defending his play just stating the obv.

              ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
              40 trials (Exhaustive)
              board: 246t
              Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
              3s6s8h7h35.00% 140
              5s3ckckd65.00% 260
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