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01-03-2008 , 02:35 PM

nigul

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I know it's micro limit, but I'm not used to play so deep especially when OOP. No reads on villain. I would appreciate suggestions for any street.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $11.35
UTG: $4.70
MP: $2.30
CO: $59.00
BTN: $17.20
Hero (SB): $34.35

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 2

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB raises to $0.30, UTG calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.80) 2

(6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.60, BTN folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $2.40

Turn: ($7.80) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO raises to $14.50, Hero folds

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01-03-2008 , 02:45 PM

garcia1000

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Standard
There is not a single hand you beat when he takes that line, and you only have 3 outs

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01-03-2008 , 02:52 PM

Hercules

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agree with the headline...this fold makes me sick.
cmon, at this limit u cant fold the 2nd nuts.
I would even have a really hard time to fold this vs an unknown at plo50-100.
Have seen to much crap and overplayed bs...

OH, but u are 300BB deep...i think i like ur fold now

, dunno where my stackoff-bb-line should be. 125bb?!

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01-03-2008 , 02:54 PM

nigul

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It's third nuts. Do you think willain would call on flop with 99? Could he try to bluff with deuce and ace kicker on turn? I dont think he caught a seven though.

Last edited by nigul; 01-03-2008 at 03:00 PM.

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01-03-2008 , 03:16 PM

chucky

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This fold can only be justified at all this deep. I think villian would not have raised the turn with 99xx because you would be drawing to 2-3 outs. I would actually tend to view his range as heavier to a2xx or 72xx. You are getting 2:1 to get allin on turn since villian will never fold. Lets say villian's range is 33% a2xx, 17% k2xx, 20% 99xx, 10% 92xx, and 20% 72xx. for a2xx/k2xx/72xx, villian has 10% equity on average. Lets say 92xx is 60/40 fav over you. 99xx has you drawing to 6%. Villian's total equity is 35%. Villian needs to have 99xx more than 50% of the time to contemplate a fold here.

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01-03-2008 , 03:33 PM

gordo16

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at these limits, this fold is absolutely terrible imo

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01-03-2008 , 03:36 PM

OMGBennyLava

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At this limits the fold is actually pretty GOOD! Cus ppl tend to play waay to loose preflop but turn in to nits postflop...

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01-03-2008 , 03:50 PM

nigul

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Up to 200 BB's deep I also wouldn't hesitate to call, but it's just so stupid to get stacked off here with 3rd nuts. I guess without reads it's tough decision by all means.

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01-03-2008 , 09:01 PM

garcia1000

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What's up guys?

Are we all going to play for 300BB stacks against post-flop nits where the betting was call a c/r on a dry flop, then raise turn!?

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01-03-2008 , 09:15 PM

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gordo16

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so u think there's no way that 27, or for that matter any 2, takes this line at .05/.10??

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01-03-2008 , 09:22 PM

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chucky

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Originally Posted by nigul

No reads on villain. I would appreciate suggestions for any street.

If both hero and villian are this deep at a table, you should have a read on the villian. You both must have played several orbits at least.

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01-03-2008 , 10:20 PM

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garcia1000

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so u think there's no way that 27, or for that matter any 2, takes this line at .05/.10??

I think so. Against normal opposition, I thinkk ~80% you will see 99xx, and ~10% you will see 772A here.

Am I giving too much respect to villain?

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01-03-2008 , 10:45 PM

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sards

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Yes, you're giving too much respect to the villain. Just get it all in.

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01-03-2008 , 10:50 PM

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garcia1000

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Oh ok. I thought normal villains would c/c turn and c/c river with an A2 or whatever you guys are hallucinating villain's hand ranges to be

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01-04-2008 , 09:31 AM

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Hattifnatt

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well played.

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01-04-2008 , 10:57 AM

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grizy

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Villain sits at more than 500x bb... I think he's got a clue so 99 is indeed rather likely.

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