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07-19-2010 , 06:45 PM

2DMB2LIV

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What kind of adjustments do you guys make when playing SS tables?

I would never set foot on these tables if I didn't have to, but above .50/1, it seems there are sometimes not even enough games running on standard or deep tables to multitable comfortably at these stakes.

So I figured I'd start thinking about how to show a profit in these games....

Seems like the edges should be a lot thinner given the lack of maneuverability post flop.

Do you guys get more aggro, or on the contrary just tighten up like crazy and only play 15% of hands?
Is that a viable strategy 6 max?

What other adjustments do you effect on your general strategy?

Thanks

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07-19-2010 , 06:53 PM

Onugbu

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Depends. I dont like those tables too. Today 3 tables with 100-250bb were running at 1/2. All wit at least 4 players with 250-500bb deep. That was realy omaha play.

50bb or less takes away postflop play a lot, cause any multiway pot is contested on flop. Most of the time i try to play tight at a loose table, and loose at a tight one. Thats all.
And i try to identify those players that are not comfortable playing deep after they trippled up and then i focus on them (when i have a bigger stack too, of course)

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07-19-2010 , 08:33 PM

GoGetaRealJob

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Originally Posted by 2DMB2LIV

Play tight, concentrate on pre-flop domination. Since people like to 3bet a lot, adjust your open size to min-raise or half-pot. The general strategy for many players is to commit pre and shove 95% of flops, but most of them make the mistake of thinking they are "committed" after getting ~20% of stacks in. highly exploitable.

You won't have to play ultra-tight, I think 25% overall is pretty optimal. Just be careful not to get constantly re-popped by dominating hands.

limp/3betting is also something worth experimenting with premium hands... basic stuff, I guess.

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07-19-2010 , 09:03 PM

G-Code

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try to run good...trust me you need it

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07-19-2010 , 09:09 PM

jwc529

Pooh-Bah

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if you're one of those 80% cbet types, you're gonna have to ease up

they're generally better games than the full stack ones, although i like stars' 50bb instead of 40bb, idk but it seems to make a difference

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07-19-2010 , 10:30 PM

2DMB2LIV

adept

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Originally Posted by jwc529

Thanks for all the comments, guys.

Could you explain what you mean about the 80% CBet part?

How do you make them work better than FS games? Do you just play a solid/tight ABC type game?

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07-19-2010 , 10:31 PM

2DMB2LIV

adept

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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob

or half-pot. The general strategy for many players is to commit pre and shove 95% of flops, but most of them make the mistake of thinking they are "committed" after getting ~20% of stacks in. highly exploitable.
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That's a good point; I've definitely noticed this, now that you mention it.

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07-20-2010 , 06:10 AM

CHRONICFEVER

Goes hard in the paint

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 13,536

definitley need to run good. I up 5k in less than 30k hands in shallow tables on.5-1$
best advice and you've all heard it before is tilt control. and you can lose 4-5 stacks with a blink of an eye. and with only 40 bb's stack losing 4-5 stacks of running bad can turn into 20 stacks since its so easy to get it in.
another thing is limping preflop and playing nutty hands. alot of the players @ those tables are in with crappy hands and draws. so hand selection is a big one.
oh and run good again

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07-20-2010 , 03:53 PM

jwc529

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Originally Posted by 2DMB2LIV

Thanks for all the comments, guys.

Could you explain what you mean about the 80% CBet part?

How do you make them work better than FS games? Do you just play a solid/tight ABC type game?

i mean be careful about cbetting too much, whereas deeper u can get away with it, if it's HU to flop u can get away with it, but it's rarely HU

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07-20-2010 , 04:05 PM

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2DMB2LIV

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Originally Posted by jwc529

i mean be careful about cbetting too much, whereas deeper u can get away with it, if it's HU to flop u can get away with it, but it's rarely HU

Right, I get it. Just wanted to make sure, thanks for confirming. I'll try my best

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07-20-2010 , 11:11 PM

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YouGoTGoT

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I play 25% of hands and im 3betting less and calling more pf IP. Most are fish and I make most of my money from people who cant fold AAxx and ****ty draws. I still cbet a ton and isolate limpers all day.

Very swingy tho.

Won 14 buyins at .5/1 in 600 hands, next day lost 10 buyins in 300 hands.

Cant pass up 4 or 5 fish at every table tho

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