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06-12-2023 , 02:27 PM
5-5-10 at Parx
9 handed, full table for most hands.
Pre-flop was consistently a single raise with multiple callers. My strategy was tight, patient and aggressive. Looking for high value spots.
Very little went right over a 4 hour session where I lost 2 x $700 buy-ins. Looking for feedback please on these hands.

Hand 1:
Hero in MP, stack is $900 eff.
1 limper to me with AKQ9, suited to the A (clubs)
I raise the pot ($50), with button, BB and the limper calling. Pot: $200.
Flop: AdQd4s
I flop top 2 with no bdfd. Checks to me. I bet $150 to extract value from weaker 2 pairs and protect against broadway and flush draws.
Button calls: He is loose calling station, His range is massive and is sticky with any connection to the board.
BB calls. Limper folds. Pot: $650
Turn: Kc
Checks to me. Since broadway got there, I check. Button bets pot. BB repots.
Hero with top 3?
Spoiler:
I folded (of course). Button had QQ for flopped set and BB made broadway.
River was K. I'm trying to not be results oriented here and wondering if I should have played the flop differently, looking to pot control.


Hand 2:
Hero OTB with AAQ8ss to the A. I am $1.1k eff.
Raise and call in front of me.
There is a habitual pot clicker maniac in BB who is raising like 80% of hands. With this in mind, I just call. As clockwork, he bets pot, and gets 1 caller.
Hero?
Spoiler:
I GAI and to my surprise, BB just calls - he has $3k stack. Thankfully other caller folded.
That's where the good news ends.
Board is 23689 and BB wins with 2 pair holding 235Jss


Hand 3:
Hero In cut-off with AJT7r. Single raise in front of me with 2 callers.
Hero?
Spoiler:
I included this hand as the pot got huge and I would have flopped huge wrap with KQ9. Everyone was AI BTR and I would made nut straight.
Should I have called for implied odds at this crazy table?
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06-12-2023 , 02:43 PM
Hand 1 - You played it fine.

Hand 2 - I would have potted button but as played just variance. You got what you wanted. All in preflop heads up against a very dominated hand.

Hand 3 - If limped pot I might call in position with not to many other players to act behind, but otherwise with action as described it is a fold and you can't be results oriented. You played it fine.

Really no mistakes here in the 3 hands you posted other than in Hand 2 where I would have raised preflop.
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06-12-2023 , 04:21 PM
think you're playing a bit out of your comfort zone in this game, you could easily torch $5K+ in a couple of hours without making a single mistake there

and yes, 3b hand 2. you're short enough that you can start committing yourself on many flops
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06-12-2023 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
think you're playing a bit out of your comfort zone in this game, you could easily torch $5K+ in a couple of hours without making a single mistake there

and yes, 3b hand 2. you're short enough that you can start committing yourself on many flops

You’re right about being out of my comfort zone. Which is why I buy in for $700 to mitigate. I’ve been consistently beating the 1-2 and 2-2 games I’ve been playing for the last few months and built a bankroll that can withstand some swings. My goal is to get to the next level and I’ve had a few winning sessions at 5-5-10 at Parx and even 5-5-10-20 at Aria.

I’m pushing my comfort zone as I don’t see that the standard of play is better at the next level. In fact, some of the players’ ranges are flat out insane and obviously dominated, but the money still goes in.
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06-12-2023 , 06:46 PM
You're being doubly results-oriented in your thinking around hand 1. Firstly in the obvious way that you would have won the pot had you stayed in, where folding was clearly the correct play, and secondly after seeing that one of the villains had you beat on the flop. You played it absolutely fine.

Hands 2 and 3 wp. Flush draws, particularly nutty ones, are a fairly important weapon. Showing up to a flop without one is like taking a floppy baguette to a bazooka fight.

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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
think you're playing a bit out of your comfort zone in this game, you could easily torch $5K+ in a couple of hours without making a single mistake there


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Originally Posted by oxie
You’re right about being out of my comfort zone. Which is why I buy in for $700 to mitigate. I’ve been consistently beating the 1-2 and 2-2 games I’ve been playing for the last few months and built a bankroll that can withstand some swings. My goal is to get to the next level and I’ve had a few winning sessions at 5-5-10 at Parx and even 5-5-10-20 at Aria.

I’m pushing my comfort zone as I don’t see that the standard of play is better at the next level. In fact, some of the players’ ranges are flat out insane and obviously dominated, but the money still goes in.
The level of questions you're posing here suggest that maybe you've been just running good at the lower levels. I'm sorry to be the bearer of warnings, but you get through so few hands live that it's very, very easy to go on very long up and down swings. If the games are as bad as you say you might be a winner at 5-5-10 but it's entirely possible you'll be a bigger $ winner at the lower levels with a gigantic reduction in variance. That doesn't mean you won't get there, but I would advise to move back down and just keep on posting hands and trying to find people to discuss hands with until you get good enough.
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06-12-2023 , 09:37 PM
the hands are fine. personally i would not take a shot at a game like this buying in for 70bb (and functionally less given the 3 blind structure). or, if you want to short stack it, you have to be prepared for exactly what you got. you are passing up a lot of very profitable spots by being too shallow to splash around with a guy like your whale in hand 2.

you're right that the play is sometimes worse at the next level up if your game selection is good. but you have to bring enough money to really punish them.
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06-12-2023 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wazz
The level of questions you're posing here suggest that maybe you've been just running good at the lower levels. I'm sorry to be the bearer of warnings, but you get through so few hands live that it's very, very easy to go on very long up and down swings. If the games are as bad as you say you might be a winner at 5-5-10 but it's entirely possible you'll be a bigger $ winner at the lower levels with a gigantic reduction in variance. That doesn't mean you won't get there, but I would advise to move back down and just keep on posting hands and trying to find people to discuss hands with until you get good enough.
+1. Don't take it as a burn. Just keep working on your game and posting hands.

H2 is an alarm because you got the money in good with AAxx and maybe signals that you haven't experienced the variance plo can throw at you.
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06-13-2023 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Slap My Jack
+1. Don't take it as a burn. Just keep working on your game and posting hands.

H2 is an alarm because you got the money in good with AAxx and maybe signals that you haven't experienced the variance plo can throw at you.

I don’t take it as a burn. Sure the feedback stings a little, but I greatly appreciate the tough love and will indeed continue to grind and strive to improve.
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06-14-2023 , 08:50 AM
All hands look good. Thinking during the hand seems fine as well which is even better. The result oriented thinking afterwards however is less than optimal.

Everyone needs some support after a losing session, it can be mentally rough.
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07-25-2023 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by oxie
Hand 1:
Hero in MP, stack is $900 eff.
1 limper to me with AKQ9, suited to the A (clubs)
I raise the pot ($50), with button, BB and the limper calling. Pot: $200.
Flop: AdQd4s
I flop top 2 with no bdfd. Checks to me. I bet $150 to extract value from weaker 2 pairs and protect against broadway and flush draws.
Button calls: He is loose calling station, His range is massive and is sticky with any connection to the board.
BB calls. Limper folds. Pot: $650
Turn: Kc
Checks to me. Since broadway got there, I check. Button bets pot. BB repots.
Hero with top 3?
Spoiler:
I folded (of course). Button had QQ for flopped set and BB made broadway.
River was K. I'm trying to not be results oriented here and wondering if I should have played the flop differently, looking to pot control.

Won’t check spoilers did have posted;

Mmm I think multi-way with no draws I may bet smaller or even check here for pot control, although I can sometimes autopilot just bomb this flop with top 2 I guess but would regret it once I did it.
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07-26-2023 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by oxie

Hand 2:
Hero OTB with AAQ8ss to the A. I am $1.1k eff.
Raise and call in front of me.
There is a habitual pot clicker maniac in BB who is raising like 80% of hands. With this in mind, I just call. As clockwork, he bets pot, and gets 1 caller.
Hero?
I just open in button and hope he 3bets. Err as played we just fist pump pot. Going broke on most flops and if other caller comes along we are about spr 1 anyway right at that point so weeeeee?
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07-26-2023 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by oxie
Hand 3:
Hero In cut-off with AJT7r. Single raise in front of me with 2 callers.
Hero?
Folding is probably the right play.
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