I have played maybe 40 hours over the past 4 months of poker. I have been busy and just not feeling inspired to play at all. I saw a decent 1/2 PLO game running and decided to play with 1 seat open. I sit down and buy in for $200 and quickly have $300. There are 2 fish in the game:

-Fish 1-He is older and is nitty but crazy at the same time. I guess he just doesnt know how to value hands. He usually comes with $1k to drop though. I saw him fold in the BB 4567 with $200 in a pot where it was limped then raised to $10 and and called then limp reraised to $180 with 3 callers in front he folds??? Then I saw him stack off with AA on a 5689J board and shoved the river to an obvious straight.

-Fish 2-I dont have any history with him. I havent been around and it seems like he started coming around. Mid 40s and has $1500 and isnt afraid to play. Talks a lot. We got into a hand where I had AcJc7c8d and the flop came 3c4c5s and I check, he bets $20 and 3 callers, I call. Turn blank, I check he bets $35 2 callers, I call. River 6d, I check he bets $100, folds to me, I shove, he has KcQc78 and we chop.


This hand, I am in the CO with AcKc6s6d and its $10 to me and I call and there are 5 to the flop. I have $300 to start the hand and both cover.

Flop comes:

4h6h8d

I notice Fish 1 who is BB look very interested in the flop. He looks around the table and checks. Fish 2 is next to act and bets $20, call, call, I call, folds to Fish 1 (bb) who pots for $170. Fish 2 flats and it folds to me.

This is the spot we all want to be in. In a 3 way hand with 2 fish. I think its obvious that Fish 1 has 57 and flopped a straight but what can fish 2 have here? If he flops a straight, doesnt he just repot it? He can have top set or a FD. Him flatting throws me off. Do we have to call here?

Pot is $170+170+150=490 and we have about 35% equity vs straights and redraw straight hands. Its an obvious call OTF right? We are putting in 30.5% with 35% equity. But what about the times that someone has top set here? Are we worried about this?

What do we do?

I'm not sure how you're coming up with such good equity for yourself unless I'm doing something wrong.

ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.26 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
Board - 4h6h8d
PLAYER_1 88!888,44!444,Ah[2h-Kh],789T,79T4,9hTh
PLAYER_2 57
PLAYER_3 AcKc6s6d
800000 trials (randomized)


All-in Equity

	Equity %	Wins Hi %	Ties Hi %	Wins Hi Count	Ties Hi Count
88!888,44!444,Ah[2h-...	27.6128%	26.5148%	2.1961%	212118	17569
57	46.6711%	45.5742%	2.1938%	364594	17550
AcKc6s6d	25.7161%	25.7136%	0.0049%	205709	39

call and turn the 6c

How is this an "obvious call"? We don't have backdoors/redraws and if the board pairs we likely aren't getting much value even out of the fish since its 3-way to the turn. This doesn't even factor in the potential reverse implied odds of our situation.

because we plan on turning the 6c obv.

joking aside, it seems nearly as likely that original bettor has a set of 4s as 8s, and he can have a wrap or an oesd (less likely) or even two pair (also less likely). I don't think it's a slam dunk call, but it seems fine, especially to break up the monotony of live poker. doubt it really matters all that much call or fold

edit: hmm just looked at the sims more closely and pretty much agree with the ranges put in. seems probably better to fold.

Only reason I say obvious call is because of the players in the had and how they value hands.

I folded here and did not call.

Before the turn came, fish 2 asked if they could check it down. Fish 1 agreed. There wasn't much behind for fish 1 anyways and bc they are not good players, nobody said anything about checking it down.

Turn was 9s. River 8.

Fish 1 missed he said and fish 2 had 579t w hearts. Fish 2 said he thought they both had the same hand.

fold pre?