Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $7.35
BTN: $5.57
SB: $6.18
BB: $7.95
Hero (UTG): $10.62
MP: $12.86

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with A 8 5 A
Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 8 4 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.25) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25

River: ($6.75) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

not sure if i shoudl be betting turn either?

Bet\fold turn. He's calling with a lot of crap.

But checking turn and calling lots of rivers is good to let him bluff or bet with a worse hand.

wtf is going on here you have 3 Aces

bet the river for gods sakes. he might call with two pair. he doesn't have a straight on turn, and the river doesn't change anything.

really bad adviceimo. people are really passive at these stakes. don't wanna give him a free chance to hit a strait on the river. plus alot of people c/r these turns with the nuts so a donk on a blank river doesn't neccescarily mean a bluff you gotta look at their stats.

no offence, but I think you are better off just reading than writing. You do realise we have a set of aces, a blocker to the straight, and the ****ing nut flush draw?


You played it great, shove river. He'll call with a bunch of bs like 2p+blocker-to-the-str8 etc.

don't shove river in rush vs unknown at plo10 you will get way too many folds. Value bet 25bbs or something, if he shoves back he has 9T** 90% of the time.

villain has like 2/3rd of the pot left. You have to shove for balance

Bet the river too for value.

thats too much and its rush plo10 **** balance. And you can balance by value betting anyway just value bet size your straights/bluffs aswell. They are hardly ever calling a shove here without a straight, we block any good 2pairs they might have and they don't ahve a set due to how they played their line. Need to bet small as there's not much paying us off.

if you wanna become a better player, I suggest you shove. You have the wrong mind set mister, you will always be stuck at plo10 if you think like that.


Obviously I can comment more about this hand, regarding bet sizing on all the streets. Because it is not optimal. When you are potting every street, it is impossible to represent a hand range. Would you play a bluff the exact same way? (with bet sizing and all). Bet like 60 on the flop, 1.75 on the turn, and shove river.

Once again, I DONT CARE IF IT IS PLO10, do it to become better. Make +ev and standard plays and you will move up in stakes in no time

just lol, it is you which has the wrong mindset and I am not stuck at plo10 I'm up at every stake bar a few buy ins I took to 2/4. I have enough money in my account for over 20 buy ins at 1/2 yet that money cannot be risked because 99% of my cash worth is in an online poker account, I have learnt my lesson playing 30 buy in rolls although it was a fun lesson.


It being rush10 is very relevant, it is a completely different game to games you are used to. Its pretty obvious that shoving gets too many folds and this is coming from someone who has played probably more rush 10 and 25 in the last 2 months than almost if not everyone.

haha i'm going with DP on this one who regularly plays bigger pots than fishnoobs roll

you got it all wrong, sad actually, and I dont care what stakes you play. It was just a friendly advise to OP.

what is your SN? I see you discussing bs in strat threads all the time, and I'd like to see if you are as clueless as your posts.. kthx

what is yourscreename on ftp fishnoob?

lol i love how thread has turned into a flamefest
but thanks for the advice everyone, either for valuetowning rush10 or playing against thinking opponents

why are we trying to balance at rush plo 10, sorry?

to become better players.

And it's not balancing, you should ALWAYS shove, regardless of stakes

yep look at the spr, villians shouldn't be slowplaying here and we rate to have the best hand a lot of the time. especially at low stakes it would be ******ed not to shove the strait here in villians shoes because of the spr so we should have the best hand an overwhelming amount of the time. gotta go for thin value here here you're gonna feel dumb when he shows down like a set of 4's or something

I dont understand what shoving this river has to do with balance, its just plain best option for value ffs

balancing at microstakes rush is probably suboptimal, since we're not playing many good thinking players, so it actually makes us worse.

-If we shove they aren't calling with a worse hand than aces up and these hands make up the vast majority of their range.
-If we bet smaller villains in rush plo10 are generally very fickle and will call with a lower 2 pair hand like J7. They are both easily inticed and easily scared at this level.
-Balancing against unknown fish in rush10 is absurd. Against the 4tabling regs then there is a case
-anyone who wants to know my sn go **** yourselves why the **** would I care about satisfying your ego ? Why would I give a **** what anyone thinks about me? I come on here to argue about plo and I don't give a **** how much anyone has made. The day my SN is outed is the day I make a new account on here or just stop posting. I'm not so stupid to give my sn out.... for many reasons. Besides my stars SN is the only one that shows a nice profit in cash as I only play rush or some heads up on ftp. And DP I am deffo up on you from the beggining of the year when I was playing 1/2 and you was multitabling like a nutter. Every one of my tables you would be on and I'd only play 4.
-Villains stack is short so he doesn't want to lose it and reload. If he did he would be betting any hands that would call a river shove.

I hate agreeing with haggar but this. Especially the bolded bit omg its so **** obvious. People should not be commenting on games against villain pools they have very little if any experience in.

+1 on everything DP said in this thread.

awesome post.

wat is wrong with this reasoning?

now this is literally the only reasoning for a shove with substance from dpred (excluding the balancing bs and the 'shove no matter what to be a better palyer like me' bs.


And simply, to this, 'false, random unknown fish in rush10 won't', see above.