I am playing PLO50 at a friends place. We do this every fri/sat night. Min Buy-In is 10 max is 100 I am referring to the game as PLO50 because we play 25c50c not because of 50 max.

Hero: $80.00
Villain: $70
Villain2: $55.00

(BUTTON) Hero: T987
(UTG) Villain2: AKJQ
(CO) Villain2: 2256

I am on the button against to very loose players we are playing 5 handed. Villain limps in for 50 cents, Vill2 limps for 50 cents, and I make it $3.00 to go.

All 4 other players call but only Villain and Villain2 are important.

PF Pot: $15.00
FLOP: Q2J

I have the low-wrap and fdraw Villain has top 2 and a gutter and Villain2 has bottom set.

Villain bets: $4.00
Villain2 raises to: $20.00
I call and Villain 1 insta-shoves for his stack and Villain 2 calls.
I tank for about 2 minutes before I make the reluctant call thinking I have to deadly of a draw to lay down my hand.

We elect to run it twice since they are both spadeless and I am drawing pretty live other than a T which gives Villain broadway.

Long story short I hit a 9 twice, it holds, weeee ship the chedda!

Villain2 called me a fish but I think I made the right call

Thoughts?

Fold flop, all you have are a bunch of sucker draws and you had a donk and raise before you.

I get it in any day versus fish

That's a really dangerous flop for you, I'd prefer to be heads-up here. Chances are your flush-draw is dead, which really puts you in a bad spot. The stacks are relatively shallow though, so it's not a CARDINAL sin to shove here. Would still wait for a better spot.

Flop: Q2J

Hole Cards:
T987 47.30%
AKJQ 29.73%
2256 22.97%

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Fold the flop, although we know now it would be right to play this pot after the fact. On the flop we don't exactly know what they have so we don't have a real chance to do the math. You do have a nice hand in multi way pots with a decent amount of focus but not normally on this board. Don't get into a habit of playing sucker ends and low flush draws to often.

Thanks I appreciate the advice. I have been playing with these same guys pretty regularly and have some reads on my opponents. Villain2 is a very weak player, bets with air 7/10 times, does not shove Fdraws (likes to call draws) and is more likely to shove any 2 pr or set on that board. Villain is just a confused Hold'Em player that is a TPTK or Top Two/set kind of shover thats why I elected to gamble seeing as if 1 holds 2 pr and the other a set then the chances of brd pr are a lot slimmer. They were both trying to protect their hands from the fdraw/str8 draw thats what my read was (let the flaming begin since to many i am "claiming" a succesful read)

If the players are really that bad then let them trap them selfs. Wait tell you make a huge hand and let them bet it for you. If you have reads on them like you say you do then you can let them control the pot for a while.

"A great poker player does not make money because of how good he is, he makes money because of how poorly his opponents play"
~Barry Greenstein

This is a bit result oriented not?

Lets say we didnt know the other hands. What would you figure we'd be up against? I'd give sets and/or better straight/flushdraws a very high likelyhood.

I'd fold my sucker draws here and be glad I was in position to see all that action on the flop.

edit: nm I see that's what you're saying

i'd be happy to get it in hu but 3 way prob depends on players. Leave results and villain hole cards out next time

I like that villain 2 is calling you the fish here.

Still a fold 3 way, though. Even bad players can turn up with a better FD here and that pretty much kills us dead.