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07-19-2010 , 06:51 PM
villain 88/29....call? fold?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $50.00
BTN: $76.25
SB: $40.85
BB: $110.15
UTG: $98.75
Hero (MP): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A T K 5
UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.00) A T 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50, BB calls $4.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($19.50) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, BB folds

River: ($43.50) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $22.85 all in Hero ?
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07-20-2010 , 04:36 AM
If you bet the turn bigger there's no question whether you should call/fold on the river.
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07-20-2010 , 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by napsus
villain 88/29....call? fold?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $50.00
BTN: $76.25
SB: $40.85
BB: $110.15
UTG: $98.75
Hero (MP): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A T K 5
UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.00) A T 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50, BB calls $4.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($19.50) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, BB folds

River: ($43.50) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $22.85 all in Hero ?
I wouldn't fold.. good odds, lots of missed draws
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07-20-2010 , 09:54 AM
villain is playing 37/26 af 2.5 3bet 13 over 185 hands..

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($51.50)
BB ($9.24)
CO ($16.95)
Hero ($96.33)

Dealt to Hero 7 9 5 T

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($12) 7 J J

SB bets $8, Hero raises to $28.50, SB raises to $45.75 (AI), Hero calls $17.25

TURN ($103) 7 J J 6

RIVER ($103) 7J J 6 Q


standard or spew?


edit: just found another hand, wondering about preflop

I am not sure about my preflop play, i think i should raise. The flop i obvious shouldnt be leading, once i did i called the raise and the turn bet thinking i got odds. now i think it is spew. villain loose limping and very passive in general.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($235)
Hero ($55.22)
UTG ($70)
UTG+1 ($76.20)
CO ($79.29)
BTN ($206)

Dealt to Hero T 7 J 9

UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, fold, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

FLOP ($2.50) 7 T 9

SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $10, UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $7.50

TURN ($22.50) 7 T 9 5

Hero checks, UTG bets $22.50, Hero calls $22.50

RIVER ($67.50) 7 T 9 5 6

Hero checks, UTG bets $37 (AI), Hero folds

Last edited by cocktails; 07-20-2010 at 10:05 AM.
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07-20-2010 , 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cocktails
villain is playing 37/26 af 2.5 3bet 13 over 185 hands..

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($51.50)
BB ($9.24)
CO ($16.95)
Hero ($96.33)

Dealt to Hero 7 9 5 T

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($12) 7 J J

SB bets $8, Hero raises to $28.50, SB raises to $45.75 (AI), Hero calls $17.25

TURN ($103) 7 J J 6

RIVER ($103) 7J J 6 Q


standard or spew?


edit: just found another hand, wondering about preflop

I am not sure about my preflop play, i think i should raise. The flop i obvious shouldnt be leading, once i did i called the raise and the turn bet thinking i got odds. now i think it is spew. villain loose limping and very passive in general.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($235)
Hero ($55.22)
UTG ($70)
UTG+1 ($76.20)
CO ($79.29)
BTN ($206)

Dealt to Hero T 7 J 9

UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, fold, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

FLOP ($2.50) 7 T 9

SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $10, UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $7.50

TURN ($22.50) 7 T 9 5

Hero checks, UTG bets $22.50, Hero calls $22.50

RIVER ($67.50) 7 T 9 5 6

Hero checks, UTG bets $37 (AI), Hero folds
1st hand: spewy, i think... even if you're up against naked AA you have 40% equity, AA with nfd has you obv crushed. i'd float flop and re-evaluate turn.
interested to hear other thoughts

2nd hand: i wouldn't raise pf and i wouldn't donk the flop. c/c flop
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07-20-2010 , 02:14 PM
bunch of hands coming up... i'm a plo newbie so bear with me.

hand #1:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($105)
BB ($110)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($35.90)
Hero ($55)
BTN ($147)

Dealt to Hero 9 K 4 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, BB calls $1.25

FLOP ($3.75) 2 Q K

BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

TURN ($9.75) 2 Q K 3

BB checks, Hero ?

should i bet-fold turn or check behind? i think i have fair bit of equity against villains flop calling range with gutshot and overcards to 2. villain should have something like K2/Q2/straight draw/some random kings here? if he slowplayed flop with KQ/set he probably would c/r now in which case i can fold. river is going to be tricky to play often if i check behind... thoughts?

hand #2:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($74.55)
BB ($60.05)
Hero ($50.60)
CO ($39.25)
BTN ($47.10)

Dealt to Hero 8 6 5 7

Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BTN raises to $5, fold, fold, Hero calls $3.25

FLOP ($10.75) 4 6 4

Hero ?

should i donk the flop here sometimes or check-raise and try to get it in against AAxx/KKxx? i have ok equity vs overpairs.

hand #3:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($55.70)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($84.70)
UTG+1 ($52.15)
CO ($174)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero A A 5 K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.75, UTG+1 calls $3.25

FLOP ($9.75) 5 A 7

Hero bets $5.50, UTG+1 calls $5.50

TURN ($20.75) 5 A 7 T

Hero ?

can i do anything else but bet-bet-bet here?

hand #4:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($50.25)
BB ($174)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($55.45)
Hero ($59.25)
BTN ($83.95)

Dealt to Hero J 8 A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, BB calls $1.25

FLOP ($3.75) 6 T 9

BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

TURN ($10.75) 6 T 9 J

BB checks, Hero ?

should i bet the turn? if so do i simply fold to a c/r?

hand #5:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($129)
BB ($106)
UTG ($66.45)
UTG+1 ($59)
CO ($69.35)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero 5 A T K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, fold

FLOP ($4) 5 7 5

SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB raises to $8, Hero ?

3bet the flop or call?

hand #6
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($64.15)
BB ($87.25)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($81.95)
CO ($50)
BTN ($39.20)

Dealt to Hero J J A 5

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

FLOP ($1.50) A 6 J

Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.95, BB folds, BTN calls $2.45

TURN ($7.40) A 6 J 5

Hero bets $7.05, BTN calls $7.05

RIVER ($21.50) A 6 J 5 5

Hero ?

should i go for check-raise on the river here sometimes? what about betsizing if i bet?

hand #7:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($50.25)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($90.10)
CO ($63.95)
BTN ($49.25)

Dealt to Hero 4 T A K

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

FLOP ($3) T 4 9

SB bets $2.85, Hero ?

raise the flop?
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07-20-2010 , 06:41 PM
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) ($13.40)
Button ($6.25)
SB ($20.86)
BB ($4)
UTG ($13.38)
MP ($6.41)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q, A, 4
2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 10, 5, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $2.85, Hero raises to $9.30, BB calls $0.80 (All-In)
Spoiler:

Turn: ($8.05) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.05) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.05 | Rake: $0.53

Results:
BB had J, 8, J, K (three of a kind, Jacks).
Hero had K, Q, A, 4 (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $7.52

Standard, right?
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07-20-2010 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insta McBusto
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) ($13.40)
Button ($6.25)
SB ($20.86)
BB ($4)
UTG ($13.38)
MP ($6.41)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q, A, 4
2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 10, 5, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $2.85, Hero raises to $9.30, BB calls $0.80 (All-In)
Spoiler:

Turn: ($8.05) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.05) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.05 | Rake: $0.53

Results:
BB had J, 8, J, K (three of a kind, Jacks).
Hero had K, Q, A, 4 (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $7.52

Standard, right?
very standard 40bb deep. if he has the nutfd it kinda sucks and he'll be the favourite but you only need like 35% or something equity.
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07-20-2010 , 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom7
very standard 40bb deep. if he has the nutfd it kinda sucks and he'll be the favourite but you only need like 35% or something equity.
no brainer for 40-150bb
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07-24-2010 , 07:57 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($15.59)
Hero ($44.36)
UTG ($11.51)
CO ($11.75)
BTN ($13.18)

Dealt to Hero 6 2 A 2

fold, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

FLOP ($1) 5 Q 2

SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

TURN ($3.25) 5 Q 2 9

SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $10.59, Hero folds

SB wins $7.85

villain is 48/0/0 over 42 hands with 1.2 AF
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07-25-2010 , 09:50 AM
UTG solid TAG, BTN is loose passive...should we only call pf?


Entraction $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $149.27
CO: $35.03
BTN: $49.00
Hero (SB): $72.12
BB: $31.43

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 6 K A A
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $5.75, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($23.00) 9 2 T (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $23.00, BTN folds, Hero folds
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07-25-2010 , 12:33 PM
think it's fine!
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07-25-2010 , 03:55 PM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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SB: $90.15
BB: $21.25
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $105.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 T 6 7
CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $20.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $14.25

Flop: ($42.75) 9 3 2 (2 players)
SB bets $40.75, Hero folds

Final Pot: $42.75
SB shows A A T J (a pair of Aces)
SB wins $40.75
(Rake: $2.00)

i have to fold here right?

what if I was stuck instead?


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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CO: $20.95
BTN: $25.50
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $70.00
UTG: $53.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q Q T
2 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.00) 4 8 T (3 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($8.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($17.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $13.50, Hero calls $13.50

Final Pot: $44.00
Hero shows K Q Q T (three of a kind, Tens)
BB shows 9 7 K K (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Hero wins $42.00
(Rake: $2.00)

didn't expect him to bluff that kind of hand/8xxx so i guess might be bad
turn I didn't see much value in betting/getting closed out by two pair flop flats
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07-25-2010 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwc529
...
wp both, i say
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07-25-2010 , 07:01 PM
learning HU, villain playing 80/80, no 3bets over 120 hands....some stationish play, like calling a river 3bet with J-hi flush.

is this spew?

Entraction $20.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $61.28
BB: $22.68

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN/SB with T Q J 8
Hero raises to $0.60, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) 4 Q T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB raises to $3.90, Hero raises to $12.90, BB raises to $22.08, Hero calls $9.18

Turn: ($45.36) J (2 players)

River: ($45.36) 4 (2 players)
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07-25-2010 , 07:23 PM
just call his c/r IP
SPR is too large to stack off, sounds like he'll stack off later anyways

how could he possibly be playing 80/80 with no 3bets after 120 hands? maybe ur HUD is messed up
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07-26-2010 , 02:01 AM
he just never 3bet...his cbet was 100% and fold to cbet 28% and fold to turn cbet 90% so i was barreling all the time.

this other dude always called my 3bets but folded to >90% cbets

hilarious...a lot of fun.
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07-26-2010 , 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwc529
just call his c/r IP
SPR is too large to stack off, sounds like he'll stack off later anyways

how could he possibly be playing 80/80 with no 3bets after 120 hands? maybe ur HUD is messed up
....yeah i was only looking at pf 3bet.
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07-26-2010 , 04:52 AM
you guys are calling capped 3bets with 6789ds right? 4bet?
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07-26-2010 , 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokey_The_Bear
you guys are calling capped 3bets with 6789ds right? 4bet?
In a multiway pot In which people are getting all in its an easy call:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AABB38.16% 222,81912,335
KKBB21.98% 125,71112,334
6h7d8h9d39.86% 239,1351

In a heads up pot I'm definitely calling the 3 bet, and would call the 4 bet too, we're only 44% vs AA** and KQJT, and with the money in the pot already you can't get away from that.
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07-26-2010 , 02:46 PM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $13.92
UTG: $6.78
MP: $11.08
CO: $12.88
BTN: $10.65
Hero (SB): $10.31

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K T A J
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 3 Q K (3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP folds, BTN calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.40) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.85, BTN calls $1.85

River: ($7.10) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.50, Hero folds



no real reads on villain. only like 20 hands on him and i just joined the table.

check/fold turn?
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07-26-2010 , 03:27 PM
c/c flop
c/c turn
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07-26-2010 , 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by napsus
c/c flop
c/c turn
And then bet river? Or check call? C/c c/c c/f seems like an awfully weak line there.
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07-26-2010 , 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirDirDirty
And then bet river? Or check call? C/c c/c c/f seems like an awfully weak line there.
i'm a weak player
what if we donk the flop and get check-raised...do we ship it there or just flat?
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07-26-2010 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by napsus
i'm a weak player
what if we donk the flop and get check-raised...do we ship it there or just flat?
Personally I would b/f that flop without a single club. I don't mind a c/c I just think c/c on the turn then folding the river is kind of bad. I'm still learning though so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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