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01-14-2010 , 08:29 AM
Villain is cs passive fish.
60$ effective.

He open raise from btn, and i call with JJ98.

Flop T79 with two hearts.

He bet 2$ and i raise for 9$.

Pot is 24$.

Turn 4c (blank)

I pot, he tanks and call.

Pot 72$

River 2h

i check, he bet all in (30ish $) i fold.


I got very good pot odds, and after i check, its a perfect spot for him too bluff. But the way he played cried for flush draw and he his passive overall.

Betting out is bad imo bc he wont call with worse.

so it's between c/c and c/f.

what do ya think ?
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01-14-2010 , 10:27 AM
Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $241.75
Hero (MP): $53.20
CO: $41.20
BTN: $39.75
SB: $25.65
BB: $45.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Q J A A
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $6, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.25

Flop: ($18.75) 6 Q 5 (3 players)
UTG bets $15.50

UTG is a relatively solid tag. CO is LP. Standard stackoff esp with the blocker to QQQ?
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01-14-2010 , 10:29 AM
Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $169.60
MP: $7.35
CO: $55.85
BTN: $49.60
SB: $60.70
Hero (BB): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 3 4 K K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $5.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($15.75) 6 5 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $15.00, BTN calls $15

Turn: ($45.75) A (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00

Btn is a 50/20 calling station over 200 hands
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01-14-2010 , 12:36 PM
u can't fold so yeah, shove
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01-14-2010 , 08:26 PM
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $311.30
BTN/SB: $344.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q Q 2 J
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN/SB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 4 K 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $26, BTN/SB raises to $113.50, Hero raises to $293.30 all in, BTN/SB calls $179.80
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01-14-2010 , 08:39 PM
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $395.30
Hero (BTN/SB): $366.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 9 6 6
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 2 7 8 (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($86.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $72, Hero calls $72

River: ($230.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $170
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01-14-2010 , 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $311.30
BTN/SB: $344.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q Q 2 J
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN/SB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 4 K 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $26, BTN/SB raises to $113.50, Hero raises to $293.30 all in, BTN/SB calls $179.80
hate it, even with history

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $395.30
Hero (BTN/SB): $366.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 9 6 6
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 2 7 8 (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($86.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $72, Hero calls $72

River: ($230.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $170
like it, although the turn call is marginal
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01-14-2010 , 11:21 PM
Standard c/f on both hands?

Bettor in hand 1 seems to be a donk, Hand 2 is against an apparently good reg,

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $255.75
UTG: $81.80
MP: $108.15
CO: $103.40
BTN: $100.00
Hero (SB): $167.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A A 3 J
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.00) 4 6 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, Hero raises to $27, BB calls $22.50, BTN calls $22.50

Turn: ($90.00) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $90.00, BTN folds, Hero folds

Hand #2
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BTN: $86.40
Hero (SB): $119.30
BB: $155.85

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 7 K K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) J T 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($18.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14.00, Hero raises to $60, BB calls $46

River: ($138.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $82.00, Hero folds
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01-15-2010 , 12:37 AM
2+2 :

Hand 1 : bet/fold > c/r > bet/3bet
Hand 2 : same as spurious

Ivan Mwia :

Both are tough spot, gg imo
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01-15-2010 , 03:27 PM
Is it's ok to stack off against aggressive regular with wrap and overpair here? I guess the overpair makes it OK to stack off here without having a FD along our draw, right? What if we don't have an overpair, let's say we had 9TJQ for TP+wrap, how does this change things? I guess it makes them worse, since we don't really gain any extra 2 pair outs (because they're wrap outs ldo).

So, my question here is, where should I draw the line? Is my "idea" right, that 9TJQ is a fold (without FD) but TJQQ is OK to shove after he c/rs?

Stacks:
Hero ($21.30)
UTG+1 ($20.59)
CO ($44.44)
BTN ($20.18)
SB ($19.80)
BB ($20)

Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is UTG 10 Q J Q
Hero raises to $0.70, 4 folds, BB calls $0.70

Flop: 9 8 4 ($1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BB raises to $5.40, Hero raises to $17.70


edit:
ffffuuuuuuu I forgot the most important question I had... Knowing that he's aggressive, is there any merit to checking back the flop?
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01-15-2010 , 05:45 PM
Um, wow. Is this typical at this level?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 8 players
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UTG: $108.10
UTG+1: $201.00
MP1: $256.55
MP2: $40.00
CO: $41.75
Hero (BTN): $413.50
SB: $173.50
BB: $237.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 5 3 A 5
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 9 3 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $14, SB folds, BB calls $14, MP1 folds

Turn: ($52.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls $40

River: ($132.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $129, BB calls $129

Final Pot: $390.00
Hero shows 5 3 A 5 (a pair of Fives)
BB shows 2 T 6 6 (a flush, Ten high)
BB wins $387.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-15-2010 , 05:46 PM
Should I have checked behind on this flop on this semi-coordinated board?


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 478591
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UTG: $12.95
CO: $11.14
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $7.95
BB: $9.07

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 6 9 A A
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.55, SB calls $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.45, CO calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.30) K 3 T (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.30, SB raises to $7.40 all in, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero calls $5.10
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01-15-2010 , 05:51 PM
no
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01-15-2010 , 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Donktastic
Um, wow. Is this typical at this level?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 8 players
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UTG: $108.10
UTG+1: $201.00
MP1: $256.55
MP2: $40.00
CO: $41.75
Hero (BTN): $413.50
SB: $173.50
BB: $237.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 5 3 A 5
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 9 3 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $14, SB folds, BB calls $14, MP1 folds

Turn: ($52.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls $40

River: ($132.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $129, BB calls $129

Final Pot: $390.00
Hero shows 5 3 A 5 (a pair of Fives)
BB shows 2 T 6 6 (a flush, Ten high)
BB wins $387.00
(Rake: $3.00)
I wish it was typical. Happens occasionally but 10 high is awesome. Guess he had the gutter SFD and you can't lay that down LOL.
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01-15-2010 , 05:55 PM
he instacalled the river too

owned i guess
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01-15-2010 , 06:04 PM
What were you thinking value towning yourself like that, LOL.
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01-15-2010 , 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Donktastic
Um, wow. Is this typical at this level?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $108.10
UTG+1: $201.00
MP1: $256.55
MP2: $40.00
CO: $41.75
Hero (BTN): $413.50
SB: $173.50
BB: $237.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 5 3 A 5
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 9 3 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $14, SB folds, BB calls $14, MP1 folds

Turn: ($52.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls $40

River: ($132.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $129, BB calls $129

Final Pot: $390.00
Hero shows 5 3 A 5 (a pair of Fives)
BB shows 2 T 6 6 (a flush, Ten high)
BB wins $387.00
(Rake: $3.00)
It definitely happes regularly. I've had someone call me down with a straight when 3barreling nf blocker in a multiway pot. Make a note and move on I guess.
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01-15-2010 , 11:56 PM
Poker Stars $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $78.75
CO: $116.90
BTN: $204.45
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $294.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A 8 9 A
UTG calls $1, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $23.50, 1 fold, CO calls $19, BTN calls $19, 1 fold

Flop: ($76.00) 3 7 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $28.00, CO calls $28, BTN folds

Turn: ($132.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $23.00, Hero folds

Ok, so he always have a 7 here? Is my cbet size ok?
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01-16-2010 , 01:49 AM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players
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UTG: $407.35
Hero (UTG+1): $120.40
MP: $102.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $100.45
SB: $53.20
BB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with 6 4 3 4
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($26.00) J 4 T (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets $12, BTN folds, SB calls $12, UTG folds, Hero ?
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01-16-2010 , 05:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Donktastic
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players
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UTG: $407.35
Hero (UTG+1): $120.40
MP: $102.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $100.45
SB: $53.20
BB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with 6 4 3 4
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($26.00) J 4 T (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets $12, BTN folds, SB calls $12, UTG folds, Hero ?
For me this is a fold pre. Then on the flop without specific reads on opponent s and with bottom set and no flush draw it would be mucked.
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01-16-2010 , 07:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
For me this is a fold pre. Then on the flop without specific reads on opponent s and with bottom set and no flush draw it would be mucked.
i think i couldnt fold the hand with that flop structure, wraps are way more likely, especially given the pfr.
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01-16-2010 , 02:02 PM
Villain is 27/18/19 with 6.5% 3-bet over 200 hands.

With Villain completing BTN's limp I decide to raise with ds Kings. Should I call the 3-bet, I thought if I 4-bet I would have some FE.

Is this spew?

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $52.90
BTN: $49.75
SB: $50.90
Hero (BB): $51.70
UTG: $115.30
MP: $77.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K Q K 9
3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $50.90, Hero calls $30.90
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01-16-2010 , 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
i think i couldnt fold the hand with that flop structure, wraps are way more likely, especially given the pfr.
I thought this was a pretty easy flop push, just wondering what others thought.

The main reason is that I've never seen anyone bet half pot on a board like that with middle or top set.
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01-16-2010 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Villain is 27/18/19 with 6.5% 3-bet over 200 hands.

With Villain completing BTN's limp I decide to raise with ds Kings. Should I call the 3-bet, I thought if I 4-bet I would have some FE.

Is this spew?

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $52.90
BTN: $49.75
SB: $50.90
Hero (BB): $51.70
UTG: $115.30
MP: $77.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K Q K 9
3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $50.90, Hero calls $30.90
i think i've just never seen ppl limp / reraise with something else than AAxx, which u will be a dog against. that said u should call villains 3bet as he's going to 5bet u 100% of the time
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01-16-2010 , 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Villain is 27/18/19 with 6.5% 3-bet over 200 hands.

With Villain completing BTN's limp I decide to raise with ds Kings. Should I call the 3-bet, I thought if I 4-bet I would have some FE.

Is this spew?

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $52.90
BTN: $49.75
SB: $50.90
Hero (BB): $51.70
UTG: $115.30
MP: $77.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K Q K 9
3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $50.90, Hero calls $30.90
Not a big fan of 4 betting on these stakes. I don't think villains fold to 4 bets a lot of the time, so to talk about FE sounds pretty lame imo. And obv if you 4bet you do it for value cause you're obv a favorite over almost any hand that will flat call you. And you can probably push any flop (without an ace) profitable. On average ofc. You're not gonna win alot when villain flops quads for instance.

But call>raise>fold imo.
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