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12-12-2009 , 03:25 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $95.50
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $118.00
BB: $202.05
UTG: $213.30
MP: $109.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A K J Q
2 folds, CO raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, CO raises to $49.50, BTN calls $21.50 all in,

CO is a loose/passive fish and he has AA** here 100%!
We have 34% vs. AA - so this should be a pretty trivial fold at this point, no?


Hero raises to $118 all in, CO calls $46 all in

Flop: ($217.00) Q T J

Turn: ($217.00) 9

River: ($217.00) 3

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $217.00
CO shows Qc As Ah Kd (a straight, Ace high)
BTN shows Js 8d 4d Jc (a straight, Queen high)
Hero shows Ad Kh Jh Qd (a flush, King high)
Hero wins $141.00
Hero wins $73.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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12-12-2009 , 04:05 AM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $10.97
BTN: $10.65
SB: $12.43
BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.32
Hero (MP): $18.47

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 4 J A A
BB raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.95, 2 folds, SB calls $0.85, BB calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.90) 4 8 3 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.90, SB calls $2.90, BB folds

Turn: ($8.70) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $8.58 all in, Hero calls $8.58

I don’t think I’m in great shape against the set, but am probably ahead of random straight draws+lower flush draws. Standard call?
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12-12-2009 , 04:35 AM
^ standard.
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12-12-2009 , 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolside
full ring plo is silly. if you call here then your going to likely face another bet and be left wondering wtf to do. I like raising the flop, mostly to figure out where you're at and to be the aggressor - if you get rr, then it's an easy fold
I don't - look at hero's stack (50bbs). If he raises, he's put in half his stack and would have to call it off.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolside
i think ur 3bet pre is fine.

as for your bet on the flop - you bet waaay too much and you committed yourself. there is no reason to bet pot here. bet less so you leave yourself room to fold if you get c/r.
We have almost exactly 2x pot on the flop, I'm not sure there's any amount I'd be comfortable bet/folding :s?
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12-12-2009 , 11:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TianYuan


We have almost exactly 2x pot on the flop, I'm not sure there's any amount I'd be comfortable bet/folding :s?
I think the only reason to just pot these flops if it's been 4bet and there's about 1PSB left

u don't have to bet and I don't think you're a favorite vs a some kind of combo draw even if it's paired (I could be wrong), and drawing very slim against made hands. (they just don't do this with KK,QQ unfortunately) so u can b/f like 20 if you plan on betting
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12-12-2009 , 11:57 AM
Okay?

$50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $53.90
BB: $71.75
UTG: $40.90
Hero (MP): $87.65
CO: $36.80
BTN: $59.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 7 J 5 8
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.00) Q 6 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($21.00) A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15.50, CO folds, UTG raises to $34.15 (Allin), Hero calls $18.65
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12-12-2009 , 12:42 PM
Fold pre.

At least one of ur flush draws is prob no good and the villain already has a pair. Once u bet turn ur committed.

It's more deceptive to check turn and prob better since ur hearts my be toast

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamtaram
Okay?

$50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $53.90
BB: $71.75
UTG: $40.90
Hero (MP): $87.65
CO: $36.80
BTN: $59.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 7 J 5 8
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.00) Q 6 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($21.00) A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15.50, CO folds, UTG raises to $34.15 (Allin), Hero calls $18.65
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12-12-2009 , 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolside
Fold pre.

At least one of ur flush draws is prob no good and the villain already has a pair. Once u bet turn ur committed.

It's more deceptive to check turn and prob better since ur hearts my be toast
Thanks, you were right on target. I also thought someone else had a better flushdraw from the flopaction but decided to barrel again when the clubs hit. I guess that the Ace is the wrong card though. What if it would have been the King instead?
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12-12-2009 , 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamtaram
Okay?

$50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $53.90
BB: $71.75
UTG: $40.90
Hero (MP): $87.65
CO: $36.80
BTN: $59.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 7 J 5 8
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.00) Q 6 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($21.00) A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15.50, CO folds, UTG raises to $34.15 (Allin), Hero calls $18.65
fold pre, rest is good
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12-12-2009 , 02:25 PM
I'm min raising to build pot without forcing Villain off, my thoughts are if he has a 4 he'll want to see a river or maybe 66xx.

Standard or spew?

Villain is 61/33/2 over 98 hands


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $164.65
Hero (BTN/SB): $81.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 6 9 9
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 4 4 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.00) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB raises to $9, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $32, Hero raises to $79.60, BB calls $47.60
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12-12-2009 , 02:48 PM
3bettor is brandnew to table, opener is stdjog12. i dont think that i will hit too many favorable flops to call here. am i right or is this a nobrainer call?

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PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($89)
BB ($48)
UTG ($227)
Hero ($123)
BTN ($43.50)

Dealt to Hero K 9 K 2

UTG raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold, UTG calls $12, Hero...
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12-12-2009 , 02:54 PM
made new thread for this one.
to special for just quick checkup.

Last edited by ExaMeter; 12-12-2009 at 02:59 PM. Reason: new thread.
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12-12-2009 , 03:38 PM
This is not a real hand,but let's say that this is 10PLO and I have TTQ5 and I open pot from the button the small blind folds,but the BB repots
1)what is my play if he is tight pre and passive postflop?
2)what is my play if he is a loose aggro fish?
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12-12-2009 , 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derluxe
This is not a real hand,but let's say that this is 10PLO and I have TTQ5 and I open pot from the button the small blind folds,but the BB repots
1)what is my play if he is tight pre and passive postflop?
2)what is my play if he is a loose aggro fish?
1) you call and hope to crack his aces
2) i really dont know.
guess you could even fold if hes really good postflop and has balanced ranges in all spots. but im not sure.
probably have to call though.
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12-12-2009 , 04:02 PM
OK in case 1) I call and the flop is
1) 248
1.1 he donks
1.1.1 half pot
1.1.2 full pot
1.2.1. he checks

2) 248
2.1 he checks
Thanks for answering.
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12-13-2009 , 06:23 AM
CO is pretty aggro and his 4b range can def have more than AAxx. he prob 4bets rundowns, and maybe stuff like KKQQ. i've also seen button min3bet rundowns before so he doesn't necessarily have AAxx here either.

i think my line is standard here? i flat the initial action b/c my aces suck but we are def deep enough to mine for topset/nut flush. once the 4bet happens my options are either fold or 5bet. should i be 5bet/commiting with any AAxx even 500bb deep?

flop is not very good but i have to shove obv

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.05 Ante - 5 players - View hand 422712
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CO: $164.24
BTN: $269.96
SB: $14.84
Hero (BB): $120.77
UTG: $48.43

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is BB with 7 A 2 A
1 fold, CO raises to $1.10, BTN raises to $1.95, SB calls $1.85, Hero calls $1.70, CO raises to $10,BTN calls $8.05, SB calls $8.05, Hero raises to $50.25, CO calls $40.25, BTN calls $40.25, SB calls $4.79 all in

Flop: ($165.79) 7 T 3 (4 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $70.47 all in
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12-13-2009 , 07:49 AM
5 betting never seemed so wrong imo
these aces are not that great; there are probably other Axxx hands out there
which minimize our equity
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12-13-2009 , 07:56 AM
I'm not a fan of a 5b this deep. Stack sizes are super awkward imo, much prefer to flat the 4b and play for set value/pair + NFD.
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12-13-2009 , 10:10 AM
Poker Stars $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $29.20
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
CO: $20.85
BTN: $53.45
SB: $17.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 6 2 6 3
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00) 4 5 6 (4 players)
SB bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95, BTN folds

Turn: ($3.85) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70, CO calls $3.70

River: ($14.95) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, but how much $$?

comments on flop + turn appreciated
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12-13-2009 , 02:49 PM
Standard spew ?

Hand #1

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $78.25
BB: $52.80

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 9 K 3
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 7 T J (2 players)
BB bets $4.50, Hero raises to $22.50, BB calls $18

Turn: ($54.00) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $51.25, BB calls $25.80 all in


Hand #2

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $65.80
BTN/SB: $55.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 4 A A 8
BTN/SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, BTN/SB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 5 4 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, BTN/SB raises to $18, Hero raises to $60, BTN/SB calls $34.20 all in
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12-13-2009 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbStarr
Poker Stars $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $29.20
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
CO: $20.85
BTN: $53.45
SB: $17.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 6 2 6 3
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00) 4 5 6 (4 players)
SB bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95, BTN folds

Turn: ($3.85) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70, CO calls $3.70

River: ($14.95) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, but how much $$?

comments on flop + turn appreciated
vnh IMHO with the low end of the straight I would have made a raise on the flop and then on the river bet $8-9 (2/3 pot)(depending on what my image was at the table at that time).
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12-13-2009 , 03:25 PM
std vs unknowns?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($25.43)
BB ($70.51)
UTG ($21.44)
UTG+1 ($25.45)
Hero ($25)
BTN ($33.03)

Dealt to Hero 5 5 A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

FLOP ($2.55) K 8 5

SB checks, BB bets $2.55, Hero calls $2.55, SB raises to $7.65, BB folds, Hero ??
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12-13-2009 , 03:53 PM
I probably call and ship over his turn bet.
3betting now, will overrep your hand too much.
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12-13-2009 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcredskins24
std vs unknowns?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($25.43)
BB ($70.51)
UTG ($21.44)
UTG+1 ($25.45)
Hero ($25)
BTN ($33.03)

Dealt to Hero 5 5 A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

FLOP ($2.55) K 8 5

SB checks, BB bets $2.55, Hero calls $2.55, SB raises to $7.65, BB folds, Hero ??
I would fold pre, however having flopped bottom set with bdnfd I would bet and fold to any action.
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12-13-2009 , 07:48 PM
Am I playing this too strong?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $4.05
UTG: $4.97
MP: $10.20
CO: $1.37
Hero (BTN): $11.87
SB: $8.28

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with J T 9 Q
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.27, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.22, CO calls $0.22

Flop: ($1.13) Q 3 7 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.68, SB calls $1.68, UTG folds

Turn: ($4.69) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.49, SB raises to $6.33 all in, Hero calls $1.84
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