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11-26-2009 , 02:55 AM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 9 players
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UTG+2: $2.00
MP1: $11.60
MP2: $10.00
CO: $9.80
BTN: $20.00
SB: $9.90
BB: $4.00
UTG: $12.25
Hero (UTG+1): $14.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with J 9 J 6
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, MP1 calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.10) 7 5 A (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, SB calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.50) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB raises to $3.60

Hero?? Should I have checked the turn?
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11-26-2009 , 05:59 AM
I think that hand is a fold pf in ep at full ring
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11-26-2009 , 06:34 AM
Fold pre as kolo said, now fold turn, and yeah i would have checked the turn and folded river depending on bet size.
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11-26-2009 , 06:47 AM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players
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CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $9.40
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $2.00
UTG+1: $8.40
MP: $5.05

CO posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BB with T J 4 J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO checks, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) 8 8 J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

River: ($2.20) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1.70

Horrible turn and river card for me . I suppose this is an insta fold?

@previous post : What about hands like single suited kings but with a dangler in ep? Are they fold pre hands as well? Like KQK3 or KQK3
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11-26-2009 , 06:54 AM
Are you out of your mind? Horrible turn? Horrible river?
Raise it up!
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11-26-2009 , 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hello^
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players

Horrible turn and river card for me . I suppose this is an insta fold?
No, it's not an instafold, it's an instacall and against some opponents an instaraise.
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11-26-2009 , 06:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamtaram
No, it's not an instafold, it's an instacall and against some opponents an instaraise.
We are only 50bb deep. I insta-raise that.
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11-26-2009 , 07:04 AM
I couldn't think of any hand that he would bet on the river besides the straight flush or the case 8 :S. Especially considering the fact I had bet both the flop and turn so he had to be at least worried I could have the 8?
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11-26-2009 , 07:06 AM
He can easily have overpair + flush combo.

Seriously you wanted to save 1.7$, but now you are so curious, you probably keep trying to figure out what he has for several hours.
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11-26-2009 , 07:31 AM
Who comes over the top of this guy on the flop and who folds? What are my odds versus a made straight?

Thanks,


Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $7.21
MP: $3.95
CO: $2.23
BTN: $4.05
SB: $0.69
BB: $4.89

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with 5 4 2 3
Hero raises to $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.20) 7 3 4 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BTN raises to $0.68, SB folds, BB folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds, CO folds
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11-26-2009 , 07:46 AM
I fold this deep AINEC.
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11-26-2009 , 08:51 AM
1. villain unknow 40/20 but only 10hand so irrelevant

is this overpair at least 40% of the time to be +ev allin?
with 100bb deep would be ok to call and reevaulate or just fold?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($62.40)
BB ($101)
Hero ($115)
CO ($227)
BTN ($43.45)

Dealt to Hero 9 A A 8

Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, fold, SB calls $3, fold

FLOP ($11.50) 4 3 4

SB checks, Hero bets $7, CO folds, SB raises to $32.50, Hero raises to $99, SB calls $26.40 (AI)


2. villain is 45/10/1 seems standardfish

preflop a bit weakish overcall but the rest of the table was around 50/10 so If I hit I won a stack, even if I blocking them to have 2nd nuts(bc of the K of spades). and isolating dont work here.
I decided to just flat and bluff any paired,flush river(if the pot will headsup) to force out the str8.1. If I raise turn its coinflip best case. or not? can a passiv player here have anything else than a straight? 2. if I raise there would be a little bit over potsized bet left which is terrible if he bets into me on a dangerous river.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($105)
BB ($91.35)
UTG ($115)
UTG+1 ($74.50)
Hero ($103)
BTN ($142)

Dealt to Hero 7 8 A K

UTG calls $1, fold, Hero calls $1, BTN calls $1, fold, BB checks

FLOP ($4.50) T J A

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($4.50) T J A Q

BB bets $2, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, BTN folds, BB folds

RIVER ($18.50) T J A Q 8

UTG bets $6, Hero raises
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11-26-2009 , 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8844783
Who comes over the top of this guy on the flop and who folds? What are my odds versus a made straight?

Thanks,


Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $7.21
MP: $3.95
CO: $2.23
BTN: $4.05
SB: $0.69
BB: $4.89

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with 5 4 2 3
Hero raises to $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.20) 7 3 4 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BTN raises to $0.68, SB folds, BB folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds, CO folds
Easy fold this deep. We have 25% equity against the flopped straight and 27% against top set
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11-26-2009 , 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih
1. villain unknow 40/20 but only 10hand so irrelevant

is this overpair at least 40% of the time to be +ev allin?
with 100bb deep would be ok to call and reevaulate or just fold?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($62.40)
BB ($101)
Hero ($115)
CO ($227)
BTN ($43.45)

Dealt to Hero 9 A A 8

Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, fold, SB calls $3, fold

FLOP ($11.50) 4 3 4

SB checks, Hero bets $7, CO folds, SB raises to $32.50, Hero raises to $99, SB calls $26.40 (AI)


2. villain is 45/10/1 seems standardfish

preflop a bit weakish overcall but the rest of the table was around 50/10 so If I hit I won a stack, even if I blocking them to have 2nd nuts(bc of the K of spades). and isolating dont work here.
I decided to just flat and bluff any paired,flush river(if the pot will headsup) to force out the str8.1. If I raise turn its coinflip best case. or not? can a passiv player here have anything else than a straight? 2. if I raise there would be a little bit over potsized bet left which is terrible if he bets into me on a dangerous river.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($105)
BB ($91.35)
UTG ($115)
UTG+1 ($74.50)
Hero ($103)
BTN ($142)

Dealt to Hero 7 8 A K

UTG calls $1, fold, Hero calls $1, BTN calls $1, fold, BB checks

FLOP ($4.50) T J A

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($4.50) T J A Q

BB bets $2, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, BTN folds, BB folds

RIVER ($18.50) T J A Q 8

UTG bets $6, Hero raises
I think I'm folding hand 1 in a single raised pot without any reads. He doesn't really have many draws that he is going to be getting it in with and you are very rarely going to get bluffed. Hand 2 is pretty iffy as quite a few of his straights will show up with boats and bluffing a 45/10/1 isn't something I like to do
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11-26-2009 , 01:32 PM
Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $55.60
BTN/SB: $146.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 6 2 8 5
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) J 7 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $2.00, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $54.10, BTN/SB calls $24.10
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11-26-2009 , 01:33 PM
Once you raise the flop, you gotta go with it, I might just call the flop or lead it myself.
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11-26-2009 , 07:48 PM
My image is fairly nitty in both of these hands.

Villain here is tagfishy (like 30/13), is this a spot where I just have to bomb the turn and hope he goes away even though my equity sucks when called?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $99.05
UTG: $142.30
CO: $39.45
Hero (BTN): $314.50
SB: $254.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 9 J 8 T
UTG raises to $3, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $13.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $10.50, CO calls $10.50

Flop: ($42.00) 3 A 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $24, UTG calls $24, CO folds

Turn: ($90.00) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero

Villain in this hand is a winner at 200 and one of the best players at 100, I think he four bets AA 100% of the time and is probably folding most mediocre suited aces. I have a minimum of 36% or so if we get it in and potentially a lot more vs his wraps and other worse draws, should I just go ahead and ship?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $100.00
BTN: $117.70
SB: $43.00
BB: $58.10
UTG: $40.25
Hero (MP): $123.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K 3 T K
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $7.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50

Flop: ($24.00) 9 8 A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, BTN raises to $70.80, UTG folds, Hero
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11-26-2009 , 08:51 PM
can i call on turn? is it correct to call here? villian seems like straight forward fish, more on passive side, i think he has wheel straight here allways.

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $222.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $228.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with T Q 2 K
Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) J A 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($28.00) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $87.50, Hero
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11-27-2009 , 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kolotoure
I think I'm folding hand 1 in a single raised pot without any reads. He doesn't really have many draws that he is going to be getting it in with and you are very rarely going to get bluffed. Hand 2 is pretty iffy as quite a few of his straights will show up with boats and bluffing a 45/10/1 isn't something I like to do
I see , thanks
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11-27-2009 , 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Eagle
My image is fairly nitty in both of these hands.

Villain here is tagfishy (like 30/13), is this a spot where I just have to bomb the turn and hope he goes away even though my equity sucks when called?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $99.05
UTG: $142.30
CO: $39.45
Hero (BTN): $314.50
SB: $254.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 9 J 8 T
UTG raises to $3, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $13.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $10.50, CO calls $10.50

Flop: ($42.00) 3 A 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $24, UTG calls $24, CO folds

Turn: ($90.00) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero

Villain in this hand is a winner at 200 and one of the best players at 100, I think he four bets AA 100% of the time and is probably folding most mediocre suited aces. I have a minimum of 36% or so if we get it in and potentially a lot more vs his wraps and other worse draws, should I just go ahead and ship?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $100.00
BTN: $117.70
SB: $43.00
BB: $58.10
UTG: $40.25
Hero (MP): $123.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K 3 T K
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $7.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50

Flop: ($24.00) 9 8 A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, BTN raises to $70.80, UTG folds, Hero
HAND #1

I have a hard time in this spot. My gut tells me to fire but like you said if you get called you are cooked. I think he will show up with a A8xx or AcXX a lot of the time. ck behind is prob the best play.

HAND #2

I just ship it in here.
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11-27-2009 , 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Eagle

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $100.00
BTN: $117.70
SB: $43.00
BB: $58.10
UTG: $40.25
Hero (MP): $123.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K 3 T K
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $7.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50

Flop: ($24.00) 9 8 A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, BTN raises to $70.80, UTG folds, Hero
I'd bet at least 20 on the flop, I do think you have to go with it though
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11-27-2009 , 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Eagle
Villain in this hand is a winner at 200 and one of the best players at 100, I think he four bets AA 100% of the time and is probably folding most mediocre suited aces. I have a minimum of 36% or so if we get it in and potentially a lot more vs his wraps and other worse draws, should I just go ahead and ship?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $100.00
BTN: $117.70
SB: $43.00
BB: $58.10
UTG: $40.25
Hero (MP): $123.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K 3 T K
UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $7.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50

Flop: ($24.00) 9 8 A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, BTN raises to $70.80, UTG folds, Hero
This is a flop I check a lot. It might be a mistake and the hand might be worth a thread. But my reasoning is, that they wont fold an ace to a single bet. I am not too worried about protection given that we have the flush draw.
There are a decent amount of wraps that arent folding and might (c/)raise us, depending on villains' tendencies and our image, ergo if we 3bet AAxx only or is our 3betting range wider than that?

If BTN is betting, we get to see what UTG is doing and can act accordingly. We might get a free card. And yeah that's it.
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11-27-2009 , 08:23 PM
Spew or standard? Villain is 29/11/2 with 3% 3-bet over reasonable sample


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $10.00
CO: $50.00
BTN: $184.15
SB: $20.65
BB: $50.40
Hero (UTG): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 4 7 6 5
Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, CO raises to $6, BTN calls $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24.75, CO calls $18.75, BTN calls $18.75

Flop: ($75.00) K A A (3 players)
Hero bets $25.25, CO folds, BTN calls $25.25
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11-27-2009 , 08:29 PM
spew, just call the 3bet
as played give up on flop
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11-27-2009 , 09:37 PM
ya i hate 4betting in this spot.
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