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09-16-2014 , 02:56 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 9 Players
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UTG+1: 1,590 (15.9 bb)
UTG+2: 8,413 (84.1 bb)
MP1: 2,058 (20.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): 5,605 (56.1 bb)
MP3: 2,250 (22.5 bb)
CO: 4,100 (41 bb)
BTN: 12,964 (129.6 bb)
SB: 1,349 (13.5 bb)
BB: 13,649 (136.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5 7 8 4
3 folds, Hero calls 100, MP3 folds, CO calls 100, BTN folds, SB raises to 500, BB calls 400, Hero calls 400, CO folds

Flop: (1,600) 6 Q 5 (3 players)
SB bets 849 and is all-in, BB calls 849, Hero raises to 4,996, BB folds



Standard? 2 Villans in hand are both VPIP 50 over 40 hands. I know maybe limping was wrong i should of opened with a raise, but with some big stacks coming up, i was unsure about getting 3b
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09-18-2014 , 05:36 PM
Is this a standard fold? Villains stats are 24/18/4.5 over 500 hands so I figure I'm in bad shape against his range.

    Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $25.62 (102.5 bb)
    CO: $55.87 (223.5 bb)
    BB: $31.74 (127 bb)
    BTN: $31.61 (126.4 bb)
    Hero (MP): $40.39 (161.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A 8 Q A
    Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.90, 3 folds, Hero raises to $9.05, CO calls $6.15

    Flop: ($18.45) J 9 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $7, Hero folds

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    09-18-2014 , 05:55 PM
    You can open-pot that and get it in. It should be marginally +EV. But open-potting A2QA would be a significant mistake, as would open-potting A8QA on T98.
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    09-19-2014 , 04:15 PM
    First table I opened up today, been there 2 minutes and the action is crazy.

    I've basically folded everything to this point. Given how agro the table is, I really don't know if my play is correct here and if not, what should my flatting range be, could I be wider? 4b!?



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      CO: $2.47 (61.8 bb) 75/32/7
      Hero (BB): $5.05 (126.3 bb)
      SB: $3.92 (98 bb)
      BTN: $4.37 (109.3 bb) 96/60/22

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K 7 9 T
      CO raises to $0.14, BTN raises to $0.44, SB folds, Hero calls $0.40, CO calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.34) 6 J 8 (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.28, BTN calls $1.28, Hero raises to $4.61, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $2.65 and is all-in

      Turn: ($11.23) 6 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($11.23) 5 (3 players, 1 is all-in)




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      09-19-2014 , 04:58 PM
      Looks fine. No need to 4 bet, better just call if table is full of agro fishes who don't have fold button post (or pre).
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      09-19-2014 , 05:00 PM
      4betting is a fine option, but I don't mind a flat either given the hand is def strong enough vs spewmonkeys even multiways. The only problem with flatting is bad relative position as ur the first one who has to react to the 3bettor's c-bet

      there's actually some merit in gambling it up early on to get deepstacks vs the whale(s)
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      09-19-2014 , 09:49 PM
      I feel I play too passive post flop oop if I 3/4b pre, especially with two+ callers.

      I only 4b if I'm 100% GII as first to act, the only hand I would do that with is AAxx. I guess that's too tight and exploitable, which is why I rarely do it.

      At these stakes I'm happy seeing a flop most of the time with hands that dominate the trash my opponents are splashing around with. And tonight especially, I concentrated on opening up my range vs crazies and it went really well. Feel I've accomplished something today in my learning

      gratzi
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      09-20-2014 , 08:47 AM
      Given the action, I'm not sure how to feel about this flop with so many players in. I guess I should've 3b pre? if I was double suited I would pretty much 100% of the time. Is my thinking correct here?

      I figure I could be drawing to two outs OTF. CO is decent 30/21/9, not had many pots with him but I don't have him down betting dry aces on this flop multiway. So i figure check/fold is good.

      Thoughts?



        CO: $6.55 (163.8 bb)
        MP: $4 (100 bb)
        SB: $7.04 (176 bb)
        Hero (BB): $4 (100 bb)
        UTG: $4.04 (101 bb)
        BTN: $9.31 (232.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with T J 8 9
        UTG calls $0.04, MP calls $0.04, CO raises to $0.22, BTN folds, SB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.18, UTG calls $0.18, MP calls $0.18

        Flop: ($1.10) 9 J T (5 players)
        SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.78
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        09-20-2014 , 09:03 AM
        Preflop is definitely fine. Flop is indeed a correct (and easy) x/f.

        I'm not sure how wide you are flatting pre, but the hands you are "happy", situationally, about flopping -- mostly [KQ, JJ] with a few other stragglers like TTQ thrown in -- can easily be 20%+ of your range.
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        09-22-2014 , 05:33 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by CLS63AMG
        I feel I play too passive post flop oop if I 3/4b pre, especially with two+ callers.

        I only 4b if I'm 100% GII as first to act, the only hand I would do that with is AAxx. I guess that's too tight and exploitable, which is why I rarely do it.

        At these stakes I'm happy seeing a flop most of the time with hands that dominate the trash my opponents are splashing around with. And tonight especially, I concentrated on opening up my range vs crazies and it went really well. Feel I've accomplished something today in my learning

        gratzi
        You should probably tend towards flatting with your even stronger double-suited hands. Maybe this hand a too little connected to flat so in case you wanna play you should 4bet. I still think that in this spot folding pre-flop is a very advanced play.
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        09-23-2014 , 07:47 AM
        4Thanks for all the replies above guys.

        I have a hard time figuring out how to act in spots like this.

        On river we have to be right about 27-30% of the time?
        Can his hand really consist of that many worse trips, spew% and bluffs?
        Or do we just puke fold?

        Im also not sure about betsizing but i try to cbet all my top range, top draws and pure bluffs around this size on this boardtexture.

          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30948641

          MP: $5.12 (51.2 bb)
          CO: $10.38 (103.8 bb)
          BTN: $13.94 (139.4 bb)
          SB: $9.07 (90.7 bb)
          Hero (BB): $15.75 (157.5 bb)
          UTG: $15.35 (153.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with K A A 9
          UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG calls $0.40, BTN folds, SB calls $0.40

          Flop: ($1.60) 2 9 A (3 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG folds, SB calls $1.20

          Turn: ($4) K (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $3.60, SB calls $3.60

          River: ($11.20) T (2 players)
          SB bets $3.77 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.77

          Spoiler:
          Results: $18.74 pot ($0.80 rake)
          Final Board: 2 9 A K T
          SB showed 6 J A Q and won $17.94 ($8.87 net)
          Hero showed K A A 9 and lost (-$9.07 net)



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          09-23-2014 , 08:33 AM
          Unlucky. Can't fold. Have to be right 25%.
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          09-23-2014 , 11:47 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Jabonator
          Unlucky. Can't fold. Have to be right 20%.
          FYP
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          09-24-2014 , 04:39 AM
          duhh
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          09-30-2014 , 06:40 AM
          You cannot fold here. Tougher spot facing a pot bet on the river...
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          10-06-2014 , 05:30 PM
            Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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            BB: $0.80 (40 bb)
            Hero (UTG): $2 (100 bb)
            MP: $0.68 (34 bb)
            CO: $1.88 (94 bb)
            BTN: $2 (100 bb)
            SB: $4.20 (210 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q J Q J
            Hero raises to $0.06, MP folds, CO raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.09, BB folds, Hero calls $0.04

            Flop: ($0.42) 9 6 T (4 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.41, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.64, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.26 and is all-in

            Turn: ($4.22) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: ($4.22) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)



            Right to get it in here this spot? Villains is a playing 40/0
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            10-06-2014 , 07:57 PM
            Villain is like 14/10 nit over something like 150 hands. Don't ask why I 3bet.

            I intended to B/F, but timed out wanting to call thinking villain can raise A7, but AA is a big part of his UTG open range... I have to fold here right? Bleh.

              Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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              BTN: $20.39 (81.6 bb)
              Hero (SB): $54.54 (218.2 bb)
              BB: $23.17 (92.7 bb)
              UTG: $45.89 (183.6 bb)
              MP: $37.28 (149.1 bb)
              CO: $86.32 (345.3 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 T T J
              UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, UTG calls $1.95

              Flop: ($5.85) T 7 7 (2 players)
              Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

              Turn: ($10.85) A (2 players)
              Hero checks, UTG checks

              River: ($10.85) 9 (2 players)
              Hero bets $6.50, UTG raises to $29.89, Hero folds

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              10-10-2014 , 03:14 PM
              Is this a standard call in PLO or not? Should I have raised more on the flop?


                Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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                BTN: $2.13 (106.5 bb)
                SB: $1.03 (51.5 bb)
                BB: $2.27 (113.5 bb)
                UTG: $2.10 (105 bb)
                Hero (MP): $1.26 (63 bb)
                CO: $1.44 (72 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is MP with J 4 A K
                UTG raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 2 folds, BB calls $0.04

                Flop: ($0.25) Q K 2 (4 players)
                BB checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.41, CO calls $0.41, 2 folds

                Turn: ($1.19) T (2 players)
                Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.79 and is all-in

                River: ($2.77) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $2.77 pot ($0.09 rake)
                Final Board: Q K 2 T Q
                Hero showed J 4 A K and lost (-$1.26 net)
                CO showed 3 7 A Q and won $2.68 ($1.42 net)



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                10-12-2014 , 10:37 PM
                Just got it in with a fairly decent TAG at PLO10 on Bovada. I hadn't seen him showdown yet, but he seemed pretty good. SRP with 100bb eff (maybe like 105bb. He had me more than covered.) I can't post full hh because Bovada takes however long to process the hands.
                I raise CO, BTN calls, and then he defends bb. Flop: he checks, I bet, 1 fold, he raises, and I shove. He calls.
                Did I assign a decent range for him here?

                ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
                7,115,140 trials (Exhaustive)
                board: q 7 9
                Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
                qqxx, 99xx, 77xx, t86x, kjtx, jt8x48.21% 3,108,405643,687
                td 9d 8h 6h51.79% 3,363,048643,687
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                10-15-2014 , 09:39 AM
                Standizzle?

                Or fold pre as hes SS?


                iPoker - €0.50 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
                Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

                SB: 64.16 BB (VPIP: 65.71, PFR: 38.57, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 75)
                Hero (BB): 101.64 BB

                SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

                Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J T 4

                SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB raises to 27 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

                Flop: (54 BB, 2 players) 2 6 K
                Hero bets 48.6 BB
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                10-15-2014 , 10:03 AM
                std
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                10-15-2014 , 03:42 PM
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by Kingandtheduck
                Standizzle?

                Or fold pre as hes SS?
                Assuming both sides play reasonably, EVcall should be higher with shorter stacks.
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                10-15-2014 , 09:09 PM
                Hey guys,

                I am trying to find some leaks and I really think that I am playing this range poorly but not really sure where to start. This is for hands T+T+T+9-:Ass$ss.



                I guess my biggest question is how should we be playing these hands on the button and CO. It looks like I am always playing them and my river call efficiency is terrible so probably making too many river hero calls with TTP and running into sets (AJ on a AJxxx type of stuff).

                It looks like in a SRP I always play these hands in position and I feel like this makes sense because I invite the blinds along and most of these hands probably go three or four way and this range should play better multiway. I guess my question would be should the RFI of the initial raiser be >x in order for us to play this range in position and x> too 3b (I think that this range is likely always a call at small stakes unless against a huge whale and we are iso to get HU and pushing equity).

                Any suggestions on how to play this range better (I am assuming that this range should be a winner).

                I also included some of the bigger pots played. Any advice is always appreciated.
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                10-20-2014 , 02:58 PM
                If I have undestood correctly, your talking about less than 1% of PLO hands here. You need a huge sample size to coduct this kind of leak analysis... you really need a solid winnar with a massive (MASSIVE) database to do a comparison for you to know what your winrate should look like.

                I personally would auto open these hands from the CO, BN... you have soo many st8/flsh/ combo drws and 2pair value hands and lots of fold equity when deep plus your most likely always going to be last to act. Just carry on as you are, maybe fold a little more on river, unless someone has shown a clear and consistent propensity to bluff oop on turn and river.

                Hope that helps.

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                Hero (BTN): 250 BB
                SB: 152.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

                SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

                Pre Flop: (pot: 2.6 BB) Hero has 5 5 A 7

                fold, fold, CO raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 3.6 BB, fold

                Flop: (14.2 BB, 3 players) 2 4 5
                SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 10.2 BB, SB calls 10.2 BB, fold

                Turn: (34.6 BB, 2 players) 6
                SB checks, Hero bets 16.6 BB, SB raises to 60 BB, Hero

                Dabbling in some deep ante games at stars, I should really just stcik to 2card on euro sites... but hey i like it around here...

                Thoughts, plans for river?
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                10-21-2014 , 08:46 AM
                hello , i m having troubles with hm2 and zoom , i'm willing to pay someone who knows how to fix this 100$ ( i think i've tried everything by now )

                hud works correctly in regular tables , even works when i observe zoom but won't work when i sit.
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