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06-06-2012 , 05:31 AM
iPoker - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $7.91
UTG: $10.00
Hero (CO): $15.72
BTN: $17.57
SB: $11.74

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 8 7 6 4

fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.40, 4 players) 9 4 6
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BTN raises to $4.70, fold, fold, Hero raises to $15.37

Is this too aggro or is it okay,I have blockers to sets and wraps so I can't see too many hands I'm in trouble against but then there aren't many hands that call which I dominate either.Is this just one of those meh,get it in and flip spots.
Villain is a aggro monkey fish so he can have a whole lot of crap here.
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06-06-2012 , 06:40 AM
Given your read that he's an "aggro monkey fish" it's a std stackoff I think.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 9 4 6
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
8h 7c 6d 4c47.95% 261,62952,125
99,66,44,96,94,64,235,357,578,78T,(9,4,6):78,9$B$B$B52.05% 286,24652,125

(you need 44.5%)

Edit:
that's a conservative range for him btw. But it's still enough for us to stack off. Add some more crap to his range like any pair+gs, naked 87 etc and it becomes even better for us.

Last edited by Wolfram; 06-06-2012 at 06:53 AM.
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06-10-2012 , 11:01 AM
Is it a standard river b/f vs an unknown opp?

€0.25/0.5 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 4 players

SB €179.95
Hero (BB) €36.9 8733
CO €103.95
BTN €21.85

3 calls, Hero checks

Flop (€2, 4 players) 953

SB checks, Hero checks (misclick), 2 checks

Turn T

SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets €2, 2 folds, Hero raises to €7.5, CO calls

River (€17, 2 players) T

Hero bets €10, CO raises to €28.9 all-in, Hero folds
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06-10-2012 , 03:09 PM
It's prob a right fold if hes somewhat decent player, but your flop check makes it quite interesting actually, same as your sizing otr.. Ott your repping fd/top 2/set yourself and he can have any draw/2p. You bet somewhat "weak" otr, which I like, but that's why I would prob call hes raise and see what happens. You don't need to be right that often and he might just be one of those aggrotards who just shove missed draws otr. But like I said, folding is not bad, it's whatever in my opinion..
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06-14-2012 , 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayloo87
Aggressive player playing 33/22.

Should I call turn or just shove? If call turn, should I shove river for value?

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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    MP: $212.56 (106.3 bb)
    CO: $107.92 (54 bb)
    BTN: $53 (26.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    UTG: $1,033.14 (516.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 3 3 A
    4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($12) J A 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

    Turn: ($30) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $22, BB raises to $62, Hero calls $40

    River: ($154) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $123 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    I call this river pray he doesn't have qq+ clubs-- if u think he's Agro u should be xc this turn. His turn sizing makes me think he's setting up a barrel which is quite bluffy in itself so I'm calling more

    Didn't see h Hav a flush it's a snap xc as that Riv gives him no reason to stop bluffing
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    06-14-2012 , 07:58 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by coon74
    Is it a standard river b/f vs an unknown opp?

    €0.25/0.5 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 4 players

    SB €179.95
    Hero (BB) €36.9 8733
    CO €103.95
    BTN €21.85

    3 calls, Hero checks

    Flop (€2, 4 players) 953

    SB checks, Hero checks (misclick), 2 checks

    Turn T

    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets €2, 2 folds, Hero raises to €7.5, CO calls

    River (€17, 2 players) T

    Hero bets €10, CO raises to €28.9 all-in, Hero folds
    Don't like te the turn xr this deep defines your hand too much and can be put in tough spots v a thinking player as you cOver very few texture changes- so lead turn lead Riv get called down lighter
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    06-14-2012 , 06:08 PM
    Villain is 66/22 over 196 hands. My read is that he flats the nuts on the turn on a drawy board & raised the river. I don't remember the texture but just know that's he capable of "slowplaying" like a decent T here. Although I don't think that's too relevant for this hand.

    Once he c/c flop & checks the t+r I think he has mainly fd as basically every Tx would bet the river. Is it worth sticking in a small bet, like 1/2 pot to get any fd+pear trash hands to fold? Is there enough of them?
    Fwiw, unless I bet ~$3.5+ I'd say he won't fold a J, dunno though, maybe he will.
    Thoughts?

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      MP: $10.86 (108.6 bb)
      Hero (CO): $13.04 (130.4 bb)
      BTN: $15.72 (157.2 bb)
      SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $14.82 (148.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A K 6
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

      Flop: ($2.55) 3 T T (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG calls $1.30

      Turn: ($5.15) J (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks

      River: ($5.15) 7 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks

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      06-15-2012 , 02:53 AM
      Yep, check back and hopefully win by kicker, with these stats he seems not smart enough to put you on 9-8 or T-7. (I know it's suicidal, but I wish there were more regs at my tables and I could triple-barrel here )
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      06-15-2012 , 10:53 AM
      bet half pot river
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      06-15-2012 , 10:49 PM
      I would prob just give up on river not expecting to fold out pretty much anything...I would prob continue betting on turn tho since u turn so much equity...
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      06-17-2012 , 05:38 PM
      villains quite barrely, very cbetty---dont like the way i played the flop, better to just raise/end the hand otf imo, put shorty in a bad spot. perhaps i thought shorty jam would make him play his hand face up.

      as played...
      [converted_hand][hand_history]Cake Poker, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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      BB: $63.92 (32 bb)
      MP: $207.95 (104 bb)
      CO: $362.15 (181.1 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $197 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $654.61 (327.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 2 4 K
      MP folds, CO raises to $4, Hero calls $4, SB folds, BB calls $2

      Flop: ($13) 2 7 4 (3 players)
      BB checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10, BB folds

      Turn: ($33) K (2 players)
      CO bets $27, Hero calls $27

      River: ($87) 2 (2 players)
      CO bets $57, [color="red"]

      is there value in a riv jam? i dont expect him to have many combos i beat, but there also may be value to cover my bluffs (if any here) + value not letting him see my hand. not sure if i like flatting or jamming here better.

      grindcore theorem it?
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      06-17-2012 , 05:56 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by lifes3ps
      villains quite barrely, very cbetty---dont like the way i played the flop, better to just raise/end the hand otf imo, put shorty in a bad spot. perhaps i thought shorty jam would make him play his hand face up.

      as played...
      [converted_hand][hand_history]Cake Poker, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $63.92 (32 bb)
      MP: $207.95 (104 bb)
      CO: $362.15 (181.1 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $197 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $654.61 (327.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 2 4 K
      MP folds, CO raises to $4, Hero calls $4, SB folds, BB calls $2

      Flop: ($13) 2 7 4 (3 players)
      BB checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10, BB folds

      Turn: ($33) K (2 players)
      CO bets $27, Hero calls $27

      River: ($87) 2 (2 players)
      CO bets $57, [color="red"]

      is there value in a riv jam? i dont expect him to have many combos i beat, but there also may be value to cover my bluffs (if any here) + value not letting him see my hand. not sure if i like flatting or jamming here better.

      grindcore theorem it?
      Nuts w/ this board is 22 but you have a blocker. You lose to KK, 77, or 44. Do with it what you will.
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      06-17-2012 , 06:08 PM
      villain here seems competent with sizing, can be tricky, v a spazzy villian saw him b/small 3b top 2+fd, 1/2pot turn to call off

      hes reggy but something ilke 44/22/6, 9t/jt all play super strong here, i may look a tad spazzy, not sure. some reason huds not coming up on the replayer to show his stats, but we dominate all wraps but are just 40% v a 6% 3betting range on this board.

      [converted_hand][hand_history]Cake Poker, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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      SB: $190.85 (95.4 bb)
      BB: $363.32 (181.7 bb)
      MP: $570.22 (285.1 bb)
      Hero (CO): $456.91 (228.5 bb)
      BTN: $254.67 (127.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q A J
      MP folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN raises to $24, 2 folds, Hero calls $17

      Flop: ($51) T 9 T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $34, [color="grey"]

      i could go either way here

      96/call? seems i get it in real bad v his b/3b range, r/f isnt really an option is it?
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      06-17-2012 , 06:30 PM
      villains quite light pre, was trying to iso him w/ bad AAxx, fold to quite a few cbets...but just feeling lost on some of these turns...

      [converted_hand][hand_history]Cake Poker, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $186.96 (93.5 bb)
      UTG: $211.20 (105.6 bb)
      MP: $258.04 (129 bb)
      Hero (CO): $324.02 (162 bb)
      BTN: $810.64 (405.3 bb)
      SB: $858.48 (429.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A 9 4 A
      UTG folds, MP raises to $4, Hero raises to $15, 3 folds, MP calls $11

      Flop: ($33) J 2 Q (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $24, MP calls $24

      Turn: ($81) 7 (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $56, [color="red"]

      this hand strong enough to check back/ play a riv? b/f seemed std as i cant improve much, but gives him ample room to semi bluff, but he didnt seem taht agro post. but he did flat oop in a 3bp...
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      06-17-2012 , 07:31 PM
      new to plo, std call pre? ship flop or call?



      [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13243622

      BB: $100 (100 bb)
      Hero (SB): $220.14 (220.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 5 K J
      Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

      Flop: ($18) 4 5 7 (2 players)
      BB bets $10
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      06-17-2012 , 07:42 PM
      villan seemed reggy, nitty without iniciative but aggro as the PFR. to thin to call turn?


        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13243662

        BB: $149.41 (149.4 bb)
        Hero (SB): $139.72 (139.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K 9 J 4
        Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

        Flop: ($18) 5 8 T (2 players)
        BB bets $8.75, Hero calls $8.75

        Turn: ($35.50) K (2 players)
        BB bets $26.25, Hero calls $26.25

        River: ($88) 4 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero checks




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        06-17-2012 , 11:56 PM
        rather raise turn than call it, infact i think i like raisign your ahead of a lot of his combos, folds some t8/t5 combos
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        06-18-2012 , 12:11 PM
        Vbet river imo!
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        06-18-2012 , 12:47 PM
        IGT Poker Network (Entraction) - €0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

        SB: €4.58
        BB: €6.67
        Hero (UTG): €4.72
        BTN: €6.66

        SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

        Pre Flop: (€0.06) Hero has J 8 9 5

        Hero raises to €0.12, fold, fold, BB raises to €0.38, Hero calls €0.26

        Flop: (€0.78, 2 players) 7 6 K
        BB bets €0.78

        villain is aggro fish, std get it in on flop?
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        06-18-2012 , 01:50 PM
        fist-pump shove
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        06-18-2012 , 07:21 PM
        should i have checked turn? What about flop bet sizing (too small?)

          Merge, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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          CO: $27.66 (110.6 bb)
          BTN: $24.90 (99.6 bb)
          Hero (SB): $33.44 (133.8 bb)
          BB: $19.25 (77 bb)
          UTG: $25 (100 bb)
          MP: $22.01 (88 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with A 5 5 A
          2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, BB folds, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1

          Flop: ($4) 2 T 9 (3 players)
          Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

          Turn: ($11.50) 3 (3 players)
          Hero bets $6.69, CO folds, BTN calls $6.69

          River: ($24.88) J (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $14.46, Hero folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $24.88 pot ($1.24 rake)
          Final Board: 2 T 9 3 J
          BTN mucked and won $23.64 ($13.20 net)
          Hero mucked A 5 5 A and lost (-$10.44 net)
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          06-18-2012 , 09:41 PM
          xf flop... id raise pre smaller but wider too
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          06-19-2012 , 08:21 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Hu4F00
          new to plo, std call pre? ship flop or call?



          [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13243622

          BB: $100 (100 bb)
          Hero (SB): $220.14 (220.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 5 K J
          Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

          Flop: ($18) 4 5 7 (2 players)
          BB bets $10
          anyone?
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          06-19-2012 , 08:24 PM
          probably fold to the 3b pre in all honesty, id min open can call that

          as played call, judge action on his turn action--- probably like a fold more if hes barrely if u think ur gonna have to fold a lot of turns
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          06-20-2012 , 11:44 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Hu4F00
          villan seemed reggy, nitty without iniciative but aggro as the PFR. to thin to call turn?


            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13243662

            BB: $149.41 (149.4 bb)
            Hero (SB): $139.72 (139.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with K 9 J 4
            Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

            Flop: ($18) 5 8 T (2 players)
            BB bets $8.75, Hero calls $8.75

            Turn: ($35.50) K (2 players)
            BB bets $26.25, Hero calls $26.25

            River: ($88) 4 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero checks




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