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04-13-2012 , 07:27 PM
I'm almost sure this is a standard fold vs this guy. He's 32/0 over 400 hands with a river af of .6!
A8/A9/AA even 99, like always. I doubt he'd do this with 33.
Do you bet turn btw?

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $14.48 (289.6 bb)
    BB: $6.63 (132.6 bb)
    UTG: $3.39 (67.8 bb)
    MP: $7.63 (152.6 bb)
    Hero (CO): $6.66 (133.2 bb)
    BTN: $2 (40 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 9 7 Q
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.50) 9 3 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.48, BTN folds, SB calls $0.48

    Turn: ($1.46) A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80

    River: ($3.06) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.93, Hero folds

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    04-13-2012 , 11:09 PM
    If he's that passive this is a fold.
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    04-15-2012 , 03:01 AM
    Are these OK?


    Hand #1
    Ongame Network $0.25/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    SB: $95.11
    Hero (BB): $47.81
    UTG: $22.20
    MP: $12.00
    CO: $34.07
    BTN: $49.84

    Hero posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is BB with 6 8 7 9
    2 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $3, 1 fold

    Flop: ($9.00) J 9 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $9, Hero raises to $36, CO calls $21.07 all in

    Turn: ($69.14) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

    River: ($69.14) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

    Spoiler:
    Final Pot: $69.14
    Hero shows 6d 8h 7d 9h (PAIR NINE)
    CO shows Js 3c Jd Kd (THREE_OF_A_KIND JACK)
    CO wins $66.14
    (Rake: $3.00)


    Hand #2
    Ongame Network $0.25/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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    BB: $31.00
    UTG: $38.12
    Hero (CO): $49.89
    BTN: $32.91
    SB: $24.75

    BB posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is CO with J 4 K T
    UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN raises to $3.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50

    Flop: ($8.25) Q 2 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $6.25, Hero raises to $27, BTN raises to $29.16 all in, Hero calls $2.16

    Turn: ($66.57) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

    River: ($66.57) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

    Spoiler:
    Final Pot: $66.57
    Hero shows Js 4s Kh Tc (TWO_PAIR QUEEN, FOUR)
    BTN shows Ad As 6c 6s (TWO_PAIR ACE, QUEEN)
    BTN wins $63.57
    (Rake: $3.00)


    Hand #3
    Ongame Network $0.25/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    Hero (BTN): $27.33
    SB: $35.06
    BB: $19.91
    UTG: $11.92
    MP: $11.54
    CO: $24.50

    BB posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is BTN with J Q T T
    UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($6.00) K T J (6 players)
    SB bets $6, BB calls $6, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $26.33 all in, SB raises to $34.06 all in, BB calls $12.91 all in

    Turn: ($77.57) Q (3 players - 3 are all in)

    River: ($77.57) 3 (3 players - 3 are all in)

    Spoiler:
    Final Pot: $77.57
    Hero shows Jh Qh Td Th (THREE_OF_A_KIND TEN)
    SB shows As 4s 9s Qd (STRAIGHT ACE)
    BB shows 2s Ah Qs 5d (STRAIGHT ACE)
    SB wins $29.87
    BB wins $29.86
    SB wins $14.84
    (Rake: $3.00)


    Hand #4
    Ongame Network $0.25/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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    MP: $24.73
    CO: $24.75
    BTN: $51.23
    SB: $24.14
    BB: $70.53
    Hero (UTG): $50.56

    BB posts a big blind ($0.25)

    CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with A 8 T 6
    Hero calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

    Flop: ($7.25) 2 8 6 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, MP folds, CO calls $7.50, SB folds

    Turn: ($22.25) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $22.50, CO calls $15.25 all in

    River: ($52.75) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

    Spoiler:
    Final Pot: $52.75
    CO shows Ah Qs 5s Ad (TWO_PAIR ACE, TWO)
    Hero shows As 8h Ts 6d (TWO_PAIR EIGHT, SIX)
    CO wins $50.35
    (Rake: $2.40)
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    04-15-2012 , 04:14 AM
    1. OK
    2. Spew.
    3. Fold. You're already blocking one of your outs, and the call from BB can often be KK. You're basically only in good shape when they both have the AQ. And even then some of the time, they have hands like AKQJ.
    4. WP. Could also crai flop. Probably prefer leading.
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    04-15-2012 , 06:26 AM
    1)This is a spot where you actually can bet/fold such a big looking hand like yours (hes geti-it-in range rapes you).
    2)Too deep for that play.
    3)Very close. It's a fold but I would call otf with some excuses.
    4)Wp. Leading is superior.
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    04-15-2012 , 11:07 AM
      IPoker, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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      Hero (SB): $314.90 (314.9 bb)
      BB: $151.85 (151.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 4 K 4
      Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

      Flop: ($6) K 4 T (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $10, Hero raises to $34, BB calls $24

      Turn: ($74) Q (2 players)
      BB checks, [color="red"]Hero
      [/spoil]



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      04-15-2012 , 04:14 PM
      im pretty clueless about whether or not to bluff rivers, also is preflop stupid? i get too bored w/ people limping...

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      Hero ($1,070)
      ($1,930)

      Dealt to Hero 9 8 T 4

      calls $10, Hero raises to $60, calls $40

      FLOP ($120) K 2 9

      Hero bets $90, calls $90

      TURN ($300) K 2 9 2

      Hero bets $225, calls $225

      RIVER ($750) K 2 9 2 7

      Hero bets $695 (AI)
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      04-16-2012 , 04:41 PM
      I accidentaly registered in an NL omaha tournament and decided to gamble :P. I only know the basics (haven't really played omaha), but i think that this is supposed to be a split. Am i wrong ? Why i lost the pot with A high, while i have a 9 in my hand ?

      Sorry if this is the wrong thread.....


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      MP1 (t39900)
      MP2 (t5765)
      MP3 (t3120)
      CO (t5550)
      Button (t14320)
      SB (t23360)
      BB (t5915)
      Hero (UTG) (t9013)
      UTG+1 (t14842)

      Hero's M: 12.52

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A, Q, 9
      Hero bets t8983 (All-In), 1 fold, MP1 calls t8983, 6 folds

      Flop: (t18686) 2, 6, 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: (t18686) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: (t18686) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: t18686

      Results:
      Hero had K, A, Q, 9 (high card, Ace).
      MP1 had 5, 6, 9, 5 (straight, ten high).
      Outcome: MP1 won t18686
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      04-16-2012 , 04:48 PM
      Yup, you're wrong. You have to always use exactly 2 cards from your 4 whole cards and 3 from the board. So your hand is AKT87.
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      04-16-2012 , 04:53 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Jabonator
      Yup, you're wrong. You have to always use exactly 2 cards from your 4 whole cards and 3 from the board. So your hand is AKT87.
      Omg.... I am stupid.... thanks....
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      04-16-2012 , 06:08 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by sl8a
        IPoker, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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        Hero (SB): $314.90 (314.9 bb)
        BB: $151.85 (151.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 4 K 4
        Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

        Flop: ($6) K 4 T (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $10, Hero raises to $34, BB calls $24

        Turn: ($74) Q (2 players)
        BB checks, [color="red"]Hero
        [/spoil]



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        Good/standard spot to check behind imo. He might fold all his 2p, c/r straights & call or fold flush draws.
        A plus to checking is that since he min raised your flop bet I'm gonna go out on a limb & say he's bad So we prolly have some implied odds vs straights & flushes when we fill up.

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by buttface
        im pretty clueless about whether or not to bluff rivers, also is preflop stupid? i get too bored w/ people limping...

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        Hero ($1,070)
        ($1,930)

        Dealt to Hero 9 8 T 4

        calls $10, Hero raises to $60, calls $40

        FLOP ($120) K 2 9

        Hero bets $90, calls $90

        TURN ($300) K 2 9 2

        Hero bets $225, calls $225

        RIVER ($750) K 2 9 2 7

        Hero bets $695 (AI)
        Any reads? I'd give up the turn once called, if he's 1/2 decent he's folding a lot of his draws on the turn. Very opponent dependent though.
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        04-16-2012 , 06:16 PM
        Pfr is 29/8, raiser is 86/30 over 6.
        Is this a standard fistpump stack? I was surprised how high our equity was vs sets & 2p (46%)

        Quote:
          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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          UTG: $11.37 (113.7 bb)
          MP: $14.54 (145.4 bb)
          Hero (CO): $10.69 (106.9 bb)
          BTN: $4.82 (48.2 bb)
          SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
          BB: $10 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 8 A T
          UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

          Flop: ($1.35) J 6 7 (4 players)
          UTG bets $0.90, MP raises to $3.99, Hero?


          The CO limper is 70/39 over 67 hands. The SB pfr is 94/56 over 78 hands.
          Is this enough to b/c vs these two guys? It's either b/c or c/f imo.
          I'm ~38% vs top 2 & between 30 & 33% vs pear+draws. Ship ship cause these villains are way wider than the above range?


          Quote:
            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
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            Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
            CO: $12.90 (258 bb)
            BTN: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
            SB: $8.40 (168 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with A J 9 Q
            CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.65, CO calls $0.60, SB calls $0.45

            Flop: ($1.95) 5 T A (3 players)
            SB checks, Hero?

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            04-16-2012 , 07:18 PM
            $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

            Hero (UTG): $15.69
            CO: $16.09
            BTN: $19.82
            SB: $10.41
            BB: $10.96

            SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A Q 9 T

            Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

            Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) 3 A K
            Hero bets $0.70, fold, BTN calls $0.70

            Turn: ($2.45, 2 players) J
            Hero bets $1.83, BTN calls $1.83

            River: ($6.11, 2 players) 4
            Hero ?
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            04-17-2012 , 02:20 AM
            B/F 3ish
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            04-17-2012 , 06:08 AM
            I just C/F with QT. Don't see what else besides clubs that he has on this river. If you bet $3ish expect to get called by small flush like 90%. What for? He is never calling with worse if you bet $3. And if you check i don't see him turning anything into a bluff like ever

            Last edited by cassurai; 04-17-2012 at 06:19 AM.
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            04-17-2012 , 06:14 AM
            Envoy hand 1 you can shove if MP is nitty enough to raise/fold middle or bottom set but i doubt it. I like cold calling and keep calling off subsequent raises on this flop and keep calling any turn and folding to board pairing ones. No need to be the aggressor with a nut draw in this spot. Hand 2 stack it off is fine IMO.
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            04-17-2012 , 07:12 AM
            No reads, given the SS is a cbet good here?

            Prima Network $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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            Hero (MP): $31.97
            CO: $25.03
            BTN: $9.95
            SB: $9.55
            BB: $17.31
            UTG: $3.00

            UTG posts a big blind ($0.10)

            Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is MP with K A 2 Q
            UTG checks, Hero raises to $0.45, CO calls $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.35

            Flop: ($1.95) 3 J T (4 players)
            UTG checks
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            04-17-2012 , 07:30 AM
            cbet/call if ss shoves I would say
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            04-17-2012 , 07:38 AM
            I like potting it all the way.
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            04-17-2012 , 07:49 AM
            Woops thst was the wrong hand lol


            Prima Network $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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            MP: $8.76
            Hero (CO): $14.20
            BTN: $3.10
            SB: $10.00
            BB: $11.52
            UTG: $4.30

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T Q 8 9
            2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

            Flop: ($1.15) 4 8 K (3 players)
            SB checks
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            04-17-2012 , 08:12 AM
            I just check fold 3 way because I enjoy a low variance TAG style with really negative red line. Depends on how you play, both villains' passiveness (like fold flop vs cbet stat), etc. Mostly C/F for me but I know some people here will disagree because they're so LAGboss.

            And in this case the fact that BTN is short makes this more of a check-fold than a cbet because he is going to shove light with Kxxx, random FD more.
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            04-17-2012 , 06:26 PM
            Check/fold looks good Jub. Cass covered all the bases, just throwing my +1 out there!
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            04-17-2012 , 06:36 PM
            Villain is 57/34 over 56 hands.

            I'm ~45% vs a rough, too tight range of QQ, QJ, AQ+fd.
            A guy like this could shove 9T+fd, 9TQ, 9TJ, maybe even more.
            I'm working hard on my flop game atm cause there seems to be a lot more $$$ going on otf at 10PLO, prolly just variance though!

            Bet/call standard so?

            Quote:
              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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              UTG: $8.84 (88.4 bb)
              MP: $10.86 (108.6 bb)
              CO: $8.11 (81.1 bb)
              BTN: $10.97 (109.7 bb)
              SB: $3.82 (38.2 bb)
              Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with K K J T
              2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.65, CO calls $0.45

              Flop: ($1.35) 3 Q J (2 players)
              Hero bets $1.29, CO raises to $5.16, Hero raises to $9.35 and is all-in



              Surprisingly a spot like this hasn't come up yet!
              Villain was 19/12 over 134 hands, a low 3b % over a small sample also.
              So we know he doesn't have AA cause he flat, so he can have decent QQ (?) , decent KK & wrap hands.
              So would we be giving up otf cause we can be super dead once the $$$ goes in? Or would you jam it & hope he folds cause we want the $$$ in the middle, so it's basically do you think he folds 1/3 then isn't it?
              Also what'd be your turn action? (That card scared me tbh)


              Quote:
                Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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                BB: $10 (100 bb)
                MP: $17.61 (176.1 bb)
                CO: $14.20 (142 bb)
                Hero (BTN): $17.90 (179 bb)
                SB: $7.08 (70.8 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 A 7 A
                2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, SB folds, BB raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3.35, BB calls $2.25

                Flop: ($6.75) 9 T 8 (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero checks

                Turn: ($6.75) K (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero ?

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                04-17-2012 , 11:49 PM
                1, loooks good
                2, ck back turn, I think I'd be jamming the flop even though it feels really gross
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                04-17-2012 , 11:52 PM
                  On Game, $1/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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                  MP: $98 (98 bb)
                  CO: $533.45 (533.5 bb)
                  Hero (BTN): $96 (96 bb)
                  SB: $193.90 (193.9 bb)
                  BB: $106 (106 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 7 5 8
                  MP folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $13, BB raises to $60, Hero calls?




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                  initial raiser is 95/80
                  I'm 3betting him reasonably often
                  SB is 82/7
                  BB is 27/18/5% 3bet, seems competent, probably 4betting a bit wider than AA here

                  Do I have to call here, seems like I'm going to hit a lot of second best flops, especially if it goes 3way, which it probably will often if I call.
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