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09-29-2009 , 03:52 PM
jd_poker, tamtaram thx the answers.

1st hand sucks? floating on monotone board vs cr against him?
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09-29-2009 , 04:26 PM
is it ok?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $117.10
BTN/SB: $83.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K Q J 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB raises to $27, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($54.00) T 2 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $53.50, BTN/SB raises to $56.10 all in, Hero calls $2.60

Turn: ($166.20) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($166.20) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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09-29-2009 , 04:40 PM
you have 39% vs an aa** so its +Ev + sometimes a little FE vs an idiot aa** who happens to fold. ( if he is a maniac who 4bet all the then much more +EV bs sometimes he has oc)
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09-29-2009 , 04:59 PM
pretty sure riv is pretty std, but i seem to be losing in this spot a lot lately...

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.30 Ante - 6 players
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CO: $453.40
BTN: $150.75
SB: $243.05
BB: $404.95
UTG: $389.05
Hero (MP): $409.00

Pre Flop: ($4.80) Hero is MP with J Q A 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $8.80, CO calls $8.80, 1 fold, SB calls $7.80, 1 fold

Flop: ($30.20) 3 K A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $22, CO calls $22, SB folds

Turn: ($74.20) T (2 players)
Hero bets $61, CO calls $61

River: ($196.20) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $125, Hero calls $125
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09-29-2009 , 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih
you have 39% vs an aa** so its +Ev + sometimes a little FE vs an idiot aa** who happens to fold. ( if he is a maniac who 4bet all the then much more +EV bs sometimes he has oc)
thx
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09-29-2009 , 05:06 PM
villain played 42/0. flop peel might be a bit loose, but I'm getting 3:1 with a gutshot, 2 backdoor FD and overcards against a donk.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($147)
Hero ($56.90)
UTG ($27.20)
UTG+1 ($23.45)
CO ($50)
BTN ($56.25)

Dealt to Hero Q 5 A 9

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($1.25) 7 2 3

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

TURN ($2.45) 7 2 3 4

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, Hero raises to $6, UTG+1 raises to $20.45, Hero raises to $34.90, UTG+1 calls $1.90 (AI)
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09-29-2009 , 05:35 PM
do you push aa on the worst flop?? no info on bigger stack, somewhat loose.
half pot left. i missed the cbet. in this case call turn?
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($207.60)
BTN ($19.85)
SB ($100)
BB ($118)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is CO A 5 8 A
Hero raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, 1 fold, BB calls $11, Hero raises to $48.50, BTN calls $7.85, BB calls $36.50

Flop: Q 9 10 ($117.35, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 9 ($117.35, 3 players)
BB bets $69.50, [color="#777777"][i]Hero ??

my main problem is that side pot has 80% soo against him I must have 33+ % . I stoved and I am around 25% vs 20% of the hands. (but maybe lower or higher % )

Last edited by zolih; 09-29-2009 at 05:59 PM.
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09-29-2009 , 09:24 PM
I'm super new to plo and also only have 17 hands on this guy, so really no clue what I'm doing. thoughts?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $104.45
CO: $115.30
BTN: $67.50
SB: $263.00
BB: $47.00
UTG: $175.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with J A 2 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 7 Q 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9.05, CO calls $9.05, BB folds

Turn: ($27.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16

River: ($59.60) T (2 players)
Hero checks
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09-29-2009 , 09:33 PM
^bet less on flop 6.5-7
lead river $40ish as played unless u thought he was floating/bluffing which would be very rare given that texture, unless u been cbet/giving up a bit
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09-30-2009 , 12:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHFunkii
I'm super new to plo and also only have 17 hands on this guy, so really no clue what I'm doing. thoughts?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $104.45
CO: $115.30
BTN: $67.50
SB: $263.00
BB: $47.00
UTG: $175.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with J A 2 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 7 Q 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9.05, CO calls $9.05, BB folds

Turn: ($27.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16

River: ($59.60) T (2 players)
Hero checks
bet turn or CR if he's aggro, def bet the river because he's gonna check that behind so so so often
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09-30-2009 , 12:59 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($611)
BB ($196)
UTG ($109)
UTG+1 ($224)
Hero ($199)
BTN ($331)

Dealt to Hero Q K A T

fold, fold, Hero raises to $7, fold, SB raises to $23, fold, Hero calls $16

FLOP ($48) 4 J 9

SB bets $24, Hero raises to $120, SB raises to $240, Hero calls $56.70 (AI)

villain is 46/21/2.4 over 500 hands. at the time i noticed he was 3-betting pretty light. eventually i checked his stats for the session and he was 3-betting way over 30%.

anyway, standard to just ship the flop after his weak flop lead? i wasn't exactly liking having to ship with a FD out there but half-pot bets in 3bp's seem really silly.

thanks
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09-30-2009 , 05:15 AM
Are there any further reads on Villain? Was he 3-betting much from the blinds?
I don't get the 1/2 pot flop bet either, it looks like a pot sweetener trying to keep you in. Personally when playing for stacks in position I'd flat the flop bet and wait for the turn before commiting (maybe that's a leak in 3-bet pots)

Against either middle set or the diamond draw we have enough equity to get it in

board: 4dJd9s
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
QsKhAsTc 35.31% 210,854 1,979
99** 64.69% 387,167 1,979

board: 4dJd9s
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
QsKhAsTc 36.01% 208,556 15,000
*d*d** 63.99% 376,444 15,000

Our equity is crushed versus combined middle set and a diamond draw.

board: 4dJd9s
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
QsKhAsTc 23.31% 138,564 2,588
99*d*d 76.69% 458,848 2,588

Last edited by shoobri; 09-30-2009 at 05:16 AM. Reason: .
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09-30-2009 , 09:11 AM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $105.75
CO: $283.35
BTN: $227.25
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 5 Q J
3 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A T 5 (2 players)
SB bets $5.70, Hero calls $5.70

Turn: ($17.40) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $16.55, Hero folds

First hand at the table, standard?
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09-30-2009 , 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $105.75
CO: $283.35
BTN: $227.25
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 5 Q J
3 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A T 5 (2 players)
SB bets $5.70, Hero calls $5.70

Turn: ($17.40) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $16.55, Hero folds

First hand at the table, standard?
I probably fold pre if it's first hand. It isn't even suited to the Q or the J.
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09-30-2009 , 09:36 AM
Was this really horrible? Villain is playing 65/30/3.5 and is a big looser..

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $25.10
BB: $43.25
UTG: $27.45
CO: $14.55
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K J K K
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75

Flop: ($5.00) 4 7 T (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4.75, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero calls $4.75, SB folds

Turn: ($14.50) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: ($25.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14 all in, BB calls $14
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09-30-2009 , 11:16 AM
Since my confidence is at zero...

Villain played like 33/0 over the ~40 hands i had on him and he took longer to act than usual on flop+turn, i'm 99% he has AAxx considering the whole hand incl. betsizing on the river.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $25.14
CO: $14.94
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $47.51
BB: $31.46

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J J T 9
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.65

Flop: ($5.35) A 5 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.20, UTG calls $3.20

Turn: ($11.75) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.75) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $11.75, Hero folds

i'll post more when my hem works again..
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09-30-2009 , 11:38 AM
You shove the river quicker than a <insert something>.
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09-30-2009 , 11:41 AM
so the rando plo25-player 4bets the AAxx pre?

he was really passive, i dont think i should shove that river...
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09-30-2009 , 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsRequested
so the rando plo25-player 4bets the AAxx pre?
yes

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsRequested
he was really passive, i dont think i should shove that river...
even more a reason to shove river
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09-30-2009 , 11:50 AM
so i should turn it into a bluff?

maybe i shouldnt think too much at this level since i regularly outlevel myself, but seriously how can he have a 5 in his range and how can he have a flush and pot the river...
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09-30-2009 , 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsRequested
so i should turn it into a bluff?

maybe i shouldnt think too much at this level since i regularly outlevel myself, but seriously how can he have a 5 in his range and how can he have a flush and pot the river...
How can you turn the second nut boat into a bluff?

HOW CAN HE HAVE AAxx IN HIS RANGE?
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09-30-2009 , 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsRequested
so i should turn it into a bluff?

maybe i shouldnt think too much at this level since i regularly outlevel myself, but seriously how can he have a 5 in his range and how can he have a flush and pot the river...
This is like the easiest shove in the world. Your hand looks like a nice A high rundown that bet the flop for protection from flush draws. The turn check was perfect to induce, imo. He can be value betting any flush given your flop and turn action. In his eyes you rarely have a boat here. I hope you shipped.
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09-30-2009 , 11:57 AM
(it's the third nuts and) its obv very easy for him to AAxx since it's the first time he raised in 40 hands.
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09-30-2009 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AsRequested
(it's the third nuts and) its obv very easy for him to AAxx since it's the first time he raised in 40 hands.
It's entirely possible that he was card dead for the first 40 hands. You are leveling yourself.
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09-30-2009 , 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsRequested
(it's the third nuts and) its obv very easy for him to AAxx since it's the first time he raised in 40 hands.
Yeah, second nut boat and third nuts, but you cant turn that into a bluff.

Why cant he have the a lot more likely A5?
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