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12-28-2011 , 05:39 PM
Wow. Obviously I can fold after putting in 3bbs if the UTG 4bets instead. Do you realize how big AQQ2 is against a 50% range? But essentially, what you're saying is, it's bad to call there to trap a spewtard - unless you want to coldcall a 4bet from a reasonable player, which would make the flat good? I like your thinking.
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12-28-2011 , 05:55 PM
The scenario i described is super imaginary and extreme. I call this hand too OTB.

But a TAG UTG opening range should iso-4bet pot when spewtard SB/BB 3bets with ~50%.
Unless TAG is bad im folding. You can call/fold tho thats true, and even 4bet when UTG only calls the 3bet like slimy said, i agree with that..
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12-29-2011 , 06:13 AM
i hate playing shorties.
SB is very loose pre, not very good. no reads on UTG
what's the best play here?

€0.25/€0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (€11.80)
CO (€50.80)
napsus (BTN) (€187.92)
SB (€25)
BB (€22)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75, 5 players) napsus is BTN 8 10 9 7
UTG calls €0.50, 1 fold, napsus raises to €2.25, SB raises to €7.75, 1 fold, UTG goes all-in €11.80
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12-29-2011 , 06:36 AM
As usual, call. You should know this one. I always call.

Last edited by SlimyF; 12-29-2011 at 06:46 AM.
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12-29-2011 , 06:46 AM
and when SB shoves the rest, we can't be in that good a shape in the side pot.
but yeah, call i did
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12-29-2011 , 06:47 AM
UTG's raise doesn't open betting.
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12-29-2011 , 06:54 AM
indeed.
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12-29-2011 , 09:10 AM
Villain is pretty loose - 48/21

He seems semi-aggressive postflop, but haven't seen him do anything too crazy.

I'm thinking that river is a fold?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($26.86)
BB ($8.69)
CO ($22.63)
Hero ($56.01)

Dealt to Hero 6 T 5 8

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($2.25) A 9 7

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.56, SB raises to $4.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.94

TURN ($11.25) A 9 7 3

SB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($11.25) A 9 7 3 2

SB bets $10, Hero

Hand 2:

Villain seems quite loose-passive

b/c the turn?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($25.67)
Hero ($31.29)
BTN ($15)

Dealt to Hero Q 9 T 8

BTN raises to $0.85, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, BTN calls $1.40

FLOP ($4.60) 6 T 6

Hero bets $2.75, BTN calls $2.75

TURN ($10.10) 6 T 6 9

Hero

Last edited by Crazy_Leo; 12-29-2011 at 09:16 AM.
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12-29-2011 , 12:03 PM
25/10 40 hands
3bet 1 in 18 (5.6%)

Standard?

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $78.53
BTN: $27.14
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $55.79
UTG: $21.54

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, CO posts ante $0.02, BTN posts ante $0.02, Hero posts ante $0.02, BB posts ante $0.02, UTG posts ante $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero has 9 T A A

fold, CO raises to $0.45, BTN raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $5.45, fold, CO calls $5.00, BTN calls $3.85

Flop: ($16.55, 3 players) 7 Q Q
Hero bets $4.53 and is all-in, fold, BTN calls $4.53

Turn: ($25.61, 2 players) T

River: ($25.61, 2 players) J
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12-29-2011 , 12:13 PM
Crazy_Leo Im a PLO10 player but thats my opinion.

First hand: Im folding pre, as played ck flop, as played call the river bet, you didnt bet yourself the flush, so I think you should at least call this bet, that's what I'd do on a non paired river.

Second hand: Im callin pre. As played I dont know what is better, ck/c or b/f, betting and facing raise you're probably against a boat IMO. I think Im b/f, and ck/calling the river.
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12-29-2011 , 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by napsus
i hate playing shorties.
SB is very loose pre, not very good. no reads on UTG
what's the best play here?

€0.25/€0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG (€11.80)
CO (€50.80)
napsus (BTN) (€187.92)
SB (€25)
BB (€22)

Pre-Flop: (€0.75, 5 players) napsus is BTN 8 10 9 7
UTG calls €0.50, 1 fold, napsus raises to €2.25, SB raises to €7.75, 1 fold, UTG goes all-in €11.80
Does it even matter if we shove or fold ? we can still have good equity but our FDs can be dominated. I think we can save some money on flops like 337 442 and so on by just calling.

and i dont even think we will make horrible mistakes postflop with that hand.
/except stacking off to higher FDs.

anyway call seems best. lets gambol
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12-29-2011 , 03:26 PM
Villain was pretty tight - 21/14 stats over a 70 hand sample

Hadn't really seen much of his postflop play, this was the first hand of HU (at a 6-max table)

Seems ok to check fold the turn here?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($35.09)
($36.44)

Dealt to Hero K Q 9 T

raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, raises to $6.75, Hero calls $4.50

FLOP ($13.50) 8 6 7

Hero checks, bets $4, Hero calls $4

TURN ($21.50) 8 6 7 8

Hero checks
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12-29-2011 , 05:06 PM
    Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $24.40 (97.6 bb)
    Hero (MP): $24.46 (97.8 bb)
    BTN: $21.77 (87.1 bb)
    CO: $51.63 (206.5 bb)
    BB: $54.75 (219 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 A Q Q
    Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

    Flop: ($2.65) 2 4 2 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.89, BTN folds, BB calls $1.89

    Turn: ($6.43) 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($6.43) J (2 players)
    BB bets $4.58, Hero calls $4.58

    Spoiler:
    Results: $15.59 pot ($0.77 rake)
    Final Board: 2 4 2 7 J
    Hero mucked 8 A Q Q and lost (-$7.32 net)
    BB showed 5 9 J J and won $14.82 ($7.50 net)


    villain overplayed kkxx before by c/r 4s7d8d, pot Qc, jam Js, got stacked by me on another table.
    so i gave him some random spazz factor.

    didnt by turn feeling i cant get call by many worse,
    also thinkin by ckback turn i can value bet a flush otr.

    leadin river smells like 77,jj, coz it looks too dumb to be a bluff.
    but thinkin if im not callin that river im foldin EVERY river, so called.

    any big mistakes? any better line?
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    12-29-2011 , 05:52 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crazy_Leo
    Villain is pretty loose - 48/21

    He seems semi-aggressive postflop, but haven't seen him do anything too crazy.

    I'm thinking that river is a fold?

    Grabbed by Holdem Manager
    PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
    SB ($26.86)
    BB ($8.69)
    CO ($22.63)
    Hero ($56.01)

    Dealt to Hero 6 T 5 8

    fold, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

    FLOP ($2.25) A 9 7

    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.56, SB raises to $4.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.94

    TURN ($11.25) A 9 7 3

    SB checks, Hero checks

    RIVER ($11.25) A 9 7 3 2

    SB bets $10, Hero
    I'd never fold river.
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    12-29-2011 , 08:54 PM
    sanity check
    villain is a tag, plays 20% from sb, 3b 2% from sb
    plays aggro post.
    easy ship?


    €0.25/€0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
    5 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (€57.15)
    CO (€50)
    napsus (BTN) (€50)
    SB (€50)
    BB (€31.91)

    Pre-Flop: (€0.75, 5 players) napsus is BTN 9 8 J A
    2 folds, napsus raises to €1.50, SB calls €1.25, BB calls €1

    Flop: A 10 5 (€4.50, 3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, napsus bets €3.37, SB calls €3.37, BB folds

    Turn: 8 (€11.24, 2 players)
    SB checks, napsus bets €8, SB raises to €35.24
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    12-29-2011 , 09:16 PM
    Looks like TTxx. But dont think there is much you can do now.
    Stack off. Def. not easy ship but pretty reasonable, as you said he plays aggro post.
    See him doing the same with worse made hands+draws.
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    12-30-2011 , 05:21 AM
    It comes down to wether he is aggro enough to play a combodraw like this. I think it rarely is TT b/c vs a BTN steal most people are x/raising flop. I think him having AT and waiting for a safe turn is more likely than a set.
    Vs a range of AT**, KQJ:hh, A:hh which seems kinda reasonable I hope (agree?) we have 41% if we add TT we still have 37%. I guess we are not folding here if villain is aggro postflop. He just doesn't rep very many strong made hands.
    Like alrdy mentioned he may have AT or TT or sth however he won't play those hands that way the majority of the time and his draws (KQJ:hh, A:hh) will take that line a lot more which make this a pretty clear call I guess.
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    12-30-2011 , 04:00 PM
    Villain has very nitty stats - 17/13.

    No clue how he plays post.

    When he c-bets into 4 people here, I think he has an overpair a lot of the time, and when he checks back the turn I'm almost positive I have the best hand.

    I don't think he'll call the river that often, but I also dont think I'm beat that often.

    Anyone like half potting the river here?

    Grabbed by Holdem Manager
    PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
    Hero ($42.15)
    BB ($20.95)
    UTG ($26.90)
    UTG+1 ($37.20)
    CO ($25)
    BTN ($38.13)

    Dealt to Hero A A Q 6

    fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, Hero calls $0.90, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75

    FLOP ($4.25) 2 9 2

    Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $2.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.50, UTG+1 folds

    TURN ($9.25) 2 9 2 3

    Hero checks, CO checks

    RIVER ($9.25) 2 9 2 3 5

    Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50
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    12-31-2011 , 03:15 AM
    table is super loose passive, often 3/4 players per flop
    few if any 3bets at all

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    SB ($7.05)
    BB ($31.72)
    UTG ($10)
    Hero ($10.19)
    CO ($28.11)
    BTN ($8.47)

    Dealt to Hero 2 6 A A

    fold, Hero?
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    12-31-2011 , 04:36 AM
    Leo - i'd check river vs nitty player i don't think theirs much value to get, when we bet we look very strong, if he bets not sure probably call.
    Fort - I'd fold



    BTN 100/38 over 8
    MP 9/9 over 11
    UTG 40/25 over 20

    Shove or give it up?


    PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    BTN: $10.00
    SB: $7.35
    Hero (BB): $10.00
    UTG: $6.98
    MP: $9.85
    CO: $15.24

    SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A Q 5 A

    UTG raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, fold, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero raises to $2.10, UTG calls $1.75, MP calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold

    Flop: ($8.75, 4 players) 9 K 2
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    12-31-2011 , 05:15 AM
    Villain is superactive over only 20 hands. 3beting 33% and playing 71/36. Obv a maniac.
    Raise getting it in vs him for 200bb seems kinda std right?
    What's your line with same board and stacks vs a TAG (sth like 24/19 with 8% 3bet).

    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50, $0.10 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $169.15 (338.3 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $129.80 (259.6 bb)
    SB: $104.50 (209 bb)
    BB: $359.60 (719.2 bb)
    UTG: $50 (100 bb)
    MP: $122.85 (245.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 K J 5
    3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4

    Flop: ($12.10) J 6 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $10, Hero raises to $30, SB raises to $98.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $68.90
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    12-31-2011 , 05:47 AM
    Just flat the cbet. With just 20 hands, I don't think you have enough of a reason to stackoff 200bb with this mediocre hand.
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    12-31-2011 , 10:55 AM
    i'm way too often in these spots
    what went wrong that i again don't know what to do?
    villain plays a wide range from CO, steal 38%, floats wide ip


    €0.25/€0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
    4 Players

    Stacks:
    CO (€54.02)
    BTN (€35.83)
    napsus (SB) (€53.37)
    BB (€10.22)

    Pre-Flop: (€0.75, 4 players) napsus is SB Q K Q K
    CO raises to €1.75, 1 fold, napsus raises to €5.75, 1 fold, CO calls €4

    Flop: 3 9 8 (€12, 2 players)
    napsus bets €9, CO calls €9

    Turn: 5 (€30, 2 players)
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    12-31-2011 , 11:02 AM
    Well you pot/called and he had str8. It's super close between c/f and b/c. Can't say anything without reads..
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    12-31-2011 , 11:06 AM
    i potted because i thought that the 5er was not THAT likely to fill a straight draw that someone would float with vs SB 3b (which is quite high for me vs someone who steals so much)
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