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07-14-2011 , 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish_On_Tilt
Villain is playing a few tables seems OK though nothing special mostly just nutpedling & iso'ing limpers from btn.
I have been active but have not 3b him yet.
My problem here is that I have no idea what I am doing on the river - is it insane to want to vbet or just a clear c/f?

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    UTG: $28.99 (289.9 bb)
    MP: $12.34 (123.4 bb)
    CO: $24.86 (248.6 bb)
    BTN: $35.15 (351.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $45.63 (456.3 bb)
    BB: $25 (250 bb)

    Preflop: ($0.12) Hero is SB with 4 A Q 6
    UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.45, Hero raises to $1.67, BB folds, UTG calls $1.57, BTN calls $1.22

    Flop: ($5.23) 3 2 5 (3 players)
    Hero bets $2.98, UTG folds, BTN calls $2.98

    Turn: ($11.19) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($11.19) 9 (2 players)



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    I start with checking, calling some and folding some bets
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    07-14-2011 , 12:54 PM
    villain aggro, plays 100%, 3bets decent amount, bit fps, barrels v weakness

    absolutely terrbile bluff spot for him, turn pot makes worse Qs unlikely but im still pretty top of my range

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    Dealt to Hero 8 8 K Q

    raises to $2, Hero calls $1

    FLOP ($4) 2 2 Q

    Hero checks, bets $3, Hero calls $3

    TURN ($10) 2 2 Q 9

    Hero checks, bets $10, Hero calls $10

    RIVER ($30) 2 2 Q 9 Q

    Hero checks, bets $19, Hero ???


    same villain:

    idk looks like v standard call (imo) but talked about this plan and not really that many turns where we are happy and he plays rpetty well against us

    we really have to hope hes slowing down on the turn a lot... also whats ur plan on sth like K?


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    Stacks:
    suitedeule (BTN) ($121)
    BB ($315)

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) suitedeule is BTN J Q 10 3
    suitedeule raises to $3, BB raises to $5, suitedeule calls $2

    Flop: 5 10 5 ($10, 2 players)
    BB bets $7.50, $7.5 to suitedeule ($116)?
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    07-14-2011 , 06:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eule
    villain aggro, plays 100%, 3bets decent amount, bit fps, barrels v weakness

    absolutely terrbile bluff spot for him, turn pot makes worse Qs unlikely but im still pretty top of my range

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    Dealt to Hero 8 8 K Q

    raises to $2, Hero calls $1

    FLOP ($4) 2 2 Q

    Hero checks, bets $3, Hero calls $3

    TURN ($10) 2 2 Q 9

    Hero checks, bets $10, Hero calls $10

    RIVER ($30) 2 2 Q 9 Q

    Hero checks, bets $19, Hero ???


    same villain:

    idk looks like v standard call (imo) but talked about this plan and not really that many turns where we are happy and he plays rpetty well against us

    we really have to hope hes slowing down on the turn a lot... also whats ur plan on sth like K?


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    Stacks:
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    BB ($315)

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) suitedeule is BTN J Q 10 3
    suitedeule raises to $3, BB raises to $5, suitedeule calls $2

    Flop: 5 10 5 ($10, 2 players)
    BB bets $7.50, $7.5 to suitedeule ($116)?
    raise river
    fold/float, depends on mood
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    07-14-2011 , 06:38 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bullten74
    Do we get it in here?

    BB: 31/17 after 35hands.
    Co: 90/27 after 30hands.

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    BB: $32.87
    UTG: $26.56
    MP: $35.07
    CO: $19.19
    Hero (BTN): $25.00
    SB: $36.94

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 9 8 T 4
    2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, BB calls $0.85, CO calls $0.85

    Flop: ($3.40) 4 6 7 (3 players)
    BB checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero raises to $6.50, BB raises to $23.98, CO calls $16.84 all in, Hero calls. yes?
    no brainer imo
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    07-14-2011 , 06:40 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TiltForFun
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    Dealt to Hero 5 K J Q

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold, BB calls $1.25

    FLOP ($5.50) 3 T 9

    BB checks, Hero bets $4.35, BTN folds, BB raises to $17.50, Hero raises to $57.75, BB raises to $98, Hero calls $7.75 (AI)

    TURN ($136) 3 T 9 6

    RIVER ($136) 3 T 9 6 7

    villain 51/21 no history
    jam it or should I try alternative lines?
    I'd call and shove any non pairing card
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    07-15-2011 , 05:29 AM
    What you do in this situation vs 23/16 reg, fold to 3B 6% - small sample in general w/ J blocker? What if we had KKT* instead J?

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    Dealt to Hero K J T K

    UTG calls $1, fold, fold, BTN raises to $5, fold, Hero raises to $17, fold, BTN calls $12

    FLOP ($36) J 3 4

    Hero bets $24, BTN raises to $102 (AI), Hero has $70 left
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    07-15-2011 , 05:35 AM
    i'd go with it
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    07-15-2011 , 05:36 AM
    With KKT* too?
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    07-15-2011 , 05:37 AM
    any overpair/ top pair bc u nit
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    07-15-2011 , 05:48 AM
    The shortstack is 73/41 - 20 hands. MP is 39/0. Is there any other good line to take? Bet/call flop?

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    Dealt to Hero J Q A 4

    UTG raises to $4, CO calls $4, fold, Hero raises to $17, fold, UTG raises to $21 (AI), CO calls $17, Hero calls $4

    FLOP ($64) 6 J 6

    Hero checks, CO checks

    TURN ($64) 6 J 6 7

    Hero bets $40, CO raises to $59.85 (AI), Hero calls $19.85
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    07-16-2011 , 05:10 AM
    What is a default line vs a random here?
    B/f seems best but I am unsure on what sizing.
    C/c also seems OK because of all the missed draws.

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      Hero (SB): $38.63 (386.3 bb)
      BB: $24.51 (245.1 bb)
      UTG: $19.21 (192.1 bb)
      MP: $114.71 (1,147.1 bb)
      CO: $25 (250 bb)

      Preflop: ($0.12) Hero is SB with T T 3 A
      CO posts BB OOP, UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.67, BTN calls $0.67, Hero calls $0.62, BB folds, UTG calls $0.57, MP calls $0.57

      Flop: ($3.57) Q 6 Q (5 players)
      Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($3.57) T (5 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, UTG calls $2.10, 3 folds

      River: ($7.77) 4 (2 players)

      Results: $7.77 pot
      Final Board: Q 6 Q T 4
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.69 net)
      Hero mucked T T 3 A and lost (-$2.79 net)
      UTG mucked and lost (-$2.79 net)
      MP mucked and lost (-$0.69 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$0.69 net)



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      07-16-2011 , 05:27 AM
      bet 5-6
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      07-16-2011 , 11:14 AM
      Is there any way in HEM to list all players and see all their stats at once? (and sort them with highest sample sizes first)

      Trying to do some stats analysis of style differences between winning SSPLO regs, mostly to figure out how I should interpret (/adjust to) some stats.


      ninjaedit:
      Apparently I'm blind... there's a "Players" tab, it just isn't under the "Cash games" category.
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      07-16-2011 , 11:16 AM
      fish_on_tilt:
      Just bet, villain is gonna have exactly KKxx a lot there imo, so betting something like $5 is good imo
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      07-19-2011 , 03:54 AM
      sb std reg 3bet 5% out of the sb, guess wider in this spot (co posted blind), co lose pre stats pre so far but no reads post but guess quite aggro usually...
      he lost big std pot 1 hand before and posted after reload.
      co has QQ 80%+ right? or is a fold just ******ed :P

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        Hero (BTN): $546.50 (273.3 bb)
        SB: $198 (99 bb)
        BB: $426.20 (213.1 bb)
        MP: $200 (100 bb)

        Preflop: ($1) Hero is BTN with 3 6 A 5
        CO posts BB OOP, MP folds, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, SB raises to $35, BB folds, CO calls $27, Hero calls $27

        Flop: ($108) Q 3 3 (3 players)
        SB bets $44, CO calls $44, Hero folds (160 left)

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        07-19-2011 , 03:55 AM
        fold is ******ed
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        07-19-2011 , 03:57 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by lordhonse
        co has QQ 80%+ right?
        No.

        Quote:
        or is a fold just ******ed :P
        Yes.
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        07-19-2011 , 04:02 AM
        yup call and play poker
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        07-19-2011 , 09:48 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by napsus
        yup call and play poker
        whats the advantage of call vs ship? 200 in the pot and 110 left then
        think our call looks even stronger than if we just ship?!
        or is there turncard/action you then consider to do something other than calling/ship? thx
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        07-20-2011 , 06:13 PM
        Villain lost around 2 stacks pretty fast already. 95/94, 22.2% 3bet, small sample. Stabs frequently, 4bet pre once, cbet pot and folded to a shove with 100bb startstacks, c/r'ed turned before and folded to a shove. Minraised AA2 in a 4bet pot and folded to very small 3bet.

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        Dealt to Hero 7 5 9 8

        Hero raises to $1.50, calls $1

        FLOP ($3) 2 9 9

        checks, Hero bets $2.10, calls $2.10

        TURN ($7.20) 2 9 9 J

        checks, Hero bets $5.10, calls $5.10

        RIVER ($17.40) 2 9 9 J 6

        bets $16.90, Hero ???

        River bet is pot, rake hasn't been deducted by HM
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        07-20-2011 , 09:44 PM
        I doubt he is the type of player to turn any weakish SD hands he gets to the river with into bluffs, so i think you can fold.

        Is this too spewy? Xback and play a turn? UTG is 83/55, SB is 62/38.

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        Dealt to Hero 8 J K 7

        UTG raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $21, fold, SB calls $20, fold, UTG calls $15

        FLOP ($65) 9 K 4

        SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $63, SB raises to $175 (AI), UTG folds, Hero calls $112
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        07-20-2011 , 09:47 PM
        I feel like i need a better line here but dont know what i can really do differently, fold turn? Call River? Villain is 62/38 pretty passive post.
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        Dealt to Hero 4 4 T T

        fold, BTN raises to $7, fold, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $15

        FLOP ($45) 6 A 8

        Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

        TURN ($93) 6 A 8 4

        Hero checks, BTN bets $54, Hero calls $54

        RIVER ($201) 6 A 8 4 9

        Hero checks, BTN bets $178 (AI), Hero folds

        BTN wins $200
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        07-20-2011 , 11:54 PM
        ^I would bet more on the flop and take it from there.

        As played T=turn is whatever. I would probably just fold, mostly because when you boat up I dont think its often you get paid on the river, and its gonna be a scheisty boat.

        River is a no brainer.
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        07-22-2011 , 07:24 PM
        let's assume an aggro reg fish, who is not overly spewy. no betsizing tells

        do you open this hand pre vs nitty button? loose button?
        flop float ok? anyone like a raise on the flop?



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          MP: $229.35 (458.7 bb)
          Hero (CO): $260.05 (520.1 bb)
          BTN: $106.85 (213.7 bb)
          SB: $81.70 (163.4 bb)
          BB: $86.10 (172.2 bb)

          Preflop: ($0.60) Hero is CO with T J A 7
          2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $5.60, BB folds, Hero calls $4.10

          Flop: ($12.30) 9 8 5 (2 players)
          SB bets $10.75, Hero calls $10.75

          Turn: ($33.80) 2 (2 players)
          SB bets $32.15 Hero




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          07-22-2011 , 09:48 PM
          Perfect imo napsus, unless the turn completely blanks out most hands won't continue that arent really nutty. Raising isn't bad if hes b/fing all overpairs and will barrel turns but usually raising gets it in pretty bad against a good range on the flop.
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