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11-04-2010 , 12:18 AM
Full Tilt - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $12.62
CO: $10.06
BTN: $29.42
SB: $39.05
Hero (BB): $31.04

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 9 5 7 9

UTG calls $0.25, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00, 4 players) 9 J 3
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, fold, BTN calls $1.00, SB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $4.00, fold

Turn: ($12.00, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets $12.00

I just call the flop raise to see a safe turn. Bet/get it in on this blank turn standard?
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11-04-2010 , 12:48 AM
Meh... one more then I'm going to bed.

Full Tilt - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $66.06
UTG: $145.61
MP: $11.58
CO: $21.39
BTN: $28.61
Hero (SB): $25.00

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has T J K 7

fold, MP calls $0.25, fold, BTN raises to $1.10, Hero calls $1.00, fold, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.55, 3 players) K 7 8
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $7.50, fold, BTN calls $5.50

Turn: ($18.55, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $16.40 and is all-in
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11-04-2010 , 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
Full Tilt - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $12.62
CO: $10.06
BTN: $29.42
SB: $39.05
Hero (BB): $31.04

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 9 5 7 9

UTG calls $0.25, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00, 4 players) 9 J 3
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, fold, BTN calls $1.00, SB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $4.00, fold

Turn: ($12.00, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets $12.00

I just call the flop raise to see a safe turn. Bet/get it in on this blank turn standard?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
Meh... one more then I'm going to bed.

Full Tilt - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $66.06
UTG: $145.61
MP: $11.58
CO: $21.39
BTN: $28.61
Hero (SB): $25.00

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has T J K 7

fold, MP calls $0.25, fold, BTN raises to $1.10, Hero calls $1.00, fold, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.55, 3 players) K 7 8
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $7.50, fold, BTN calls $5.50

Turn: ($18.55, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $16.40 and is all-in
Both standard imo

Edit: In the second I probably fold PF, as played standard though
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11-04-2010 , 02:48 PM
SB is capable of leading with good draws, but I think his range is more likely weighted towards sets/2p + redraw. Standard fold?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.84)
BB ($2.10)
Hero ($6.62)
CO ($1.11)
BTN ($1.52)

Dealt to Hero 6 K A J

Hero raises to $0.07, fold, fold, SB calls $0.06, BB calls $0.05

FLOP ($0.21) T 5 2

SB bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.40, Hero folds, SB calls $0.20
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11-04-2010 , 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly_Fox
I like the c/r actually. If deeper I agree with you life, but with 100bb stacks assuming villain pots it if he bets(Most likely) we can raise to 7.9 which leaves us with one PSB left, which will be relatively easy to play with. Or alternatively I like c/c with intention of c/r turn over donking flop.
id agree IP. but were making too many mistakes w/ just a psb if he knows he can rep hands
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11-04-2010 , 08:23 PM
both of them 50/10ish 3bet% 1
AQ 21

is this a fold?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Pacific
SB ($27.34)
BB ($26.73)
UTG ($25.91)
UTG+1 ($65.05)
Hero ($39.25)
BTN ($8.71)

Dealt to Hero 8 4 6 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.87, BTN raises to $2.98, SB calls $2.86, fold, Hero calls $2.11

FLOP ($9.19) 6 6 J

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, SB raises to $13.69, Hero folds, BTN calls $4.23 (AI)
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11-05-2010 , 12:23 AM
got berated for this, 3 bettor is laggy.


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PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($53.10)
BB ($99.90)
UTG ($289)
UTG+1 ($103)
CO ($95.70)
Hero ($113)

Dealt to Hero K A J 8

UTG raises to $3.50, UTG+1 raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $41, fold, fold, UTG raises to $136, fold, Hero calls $72.10 (AI)

FLOP ($239) 4 7 2

TURN ($239) 4 7 2 7

RIVER ($239) 4 7 2 7 8

Hero shows K A J 8
(Pre 34%, Flop 6.9%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG shows 5 A J A
(Pre 66%, Flop 93.1%, Turn 100.0%)

UTG wins $236
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11-05-2010 , 01:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sappie22
SB is capable of leading with good draws, but I think his range is more likely weighted towards sets/2p + redraw. Standard fold?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.84)
BB ($2.10)
Hero ($6.62)
CO ($1.11)
BTN ($1.52)

Dealt to Hero 6 K A J

Hero raises to $0.07, fold, fold, SB calls $0.06, BB calls $0.05

FLOP ($0.21) T 5 2

SB bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.40, Hero folds, SB calls $0.20
fml, this hand is messed up, when it seems like it should be easy. Really hate calling since sb can jam over, but I hate folding nut draw 3 handed. I'm a spewtard and probably cold call like an idiot and hate life for the next 5minutes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tschinga-Tschanga
both of them 50/10ish 3bet% 1
AQ 21

is this a fold?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Pacific
SB ($27.34)
BB ($26.73)
UTG ($25.91)
UTG+1 ($65.05)
Hero ($39.25)
BTN ($8.71)

Dealt to Hero 8 4 6 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.87, BTN raises to $2.98, SB calls $2.86, fold, Hero calls $2.11

FLOP ($9.19) 6 6 J

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, SB raises to $13.69, Hero folds, BTN calls $4.23 (AI)
Yup, fold. Best case drawing to some outs, most likely screwed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorilla Boy
got berated for this, 3 bettor is laggy.


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($53.10)
BB ($99.90)
UTG ($289)
UTG+1 ($103)
CO ($95.70)
Hero ($113)

Dealt to Hero K A J 8

UTG raises to $3.50, UTG+1 raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $41, fold, fold, UTG raises to $136, fold, Hero calls $72.10 (AI)

FLOP ($239) 4 7 2

TURN ($239) 4 7 2 7

RIVER ($239) 4 7 2 7 8

Hero shows K A J 8
(Pre 34%, Flop 6.9%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG shows 5 A J A
(Pre 66%, Flop 93.1%, Turn 100.0%)

UTG wins $236
I hate cold calling but with the button I do it here. I mean you're 4 betting a UTG and a UTG+1 raiser here. Stats on UTG raiser?
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11-05-2010 , 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly_Fox

Yup, fold. Best case drawing to some outs, most likely screwed.

thanks. felt a little bit stupid after sb showed JTTQr. nice raise..
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11-05-2010 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tschinga-Tschanga
thanks. felt a little bit stupid after sb showed JTTQr. nice raise..
Dang, tough luck, take a note and move on. I really don't see how against anyone competent we are ahead.
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11-06-2010 , 08:28 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($4.98)
BB ($1.91)
Hero ($2.36)
UTG+1 ($6.62)
CO ($5.67)
BTN ($3.69)

Dealt to Hero 8 T T J

Hero calls $0.02, fold, CO raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, fold, BB calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

FLOP ($0.33) 8 J 7

BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

TURN ($0.33) 8 J 7 A

BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN folds, BB calls $0.18

RIVER ($0.73) 8 J 7 A K

BB bets $0.70, Hero folds

BB wins $0.70

So wanted to call this think he had a straight, villans was 55/5 over 2k hands

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grrr at prem hand fail

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PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($2.16)
BB ($7.20)
UTG ($6.11)
UTG+1 ($9.61)
CO ($5.18)
BTN ($2.10)

Dealt to Hero K A A Q

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.16, fold, BTN calls $0.16

FLOP ($0.66) 2 9 5

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN bets $0.63, Hero raises to $1.96 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN calls $1.27 (AI)

TURN ($4.46) 2 9 5 K

RIVER ($4.46) 2 9 5 K 4

BTN shows 9 6 9 3
(Pre 36%, Flop 87.3%, Turn 95.0%)

Hero shows K A A Q
(Pre 64%, Flop 12.7%, Turn 5.0%)

BTN wins $4.24

Last edited by Logieuk; 11-06-2010 at 08:51 AM.
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11-06-2010 , 09:23 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: $35.83
CO: $33.18
BTN: $27.16
Hero (SB): $18.81
BB: $122.91
UTG: $7.51

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K Q 4 K
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) K 5 8 (6 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.75) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.75, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($11.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6, Hero folds

Final Pot: $11.25
CO wins $10.69
(Rake: $0.56)
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11-06-2010 , 10:32 AM
Bet/call the turn, IMO. Then check/decide on the river. C/c top set and 2NFD on the turn is pretty weaksauce.
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11-06-2010 , 10:36 AM
Autoreload and bet bigger on the flop. I like a b/c or c/r on the turn, depends on who's in the hand.
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11-06-2010 , 11:27 AM
I should put a bit more if with my hands, i was on two great tables, everyone was playing 65% plus of hands, but i kept getting marginal hands and was unsure to call or not.

Even they were really loose, most did catch a peice of the board so i thought of just keeping it tight and try not to call OOP without nuts etc
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11-06-2010 , 05:22 PM
Should i have let this go on the turn? vs usual mongo running 40/10

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($2)
SB ($4.91)
BB ($5.56)
UTG ($3.62)
Logieuk (MP) ($5.05)

Preflop: Logieuk is MP with A, 5, A, J
1 fold, Logieuk bets $0.06, Button calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 6, A, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Logieuk bets $0.16, Button calls $0.16, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.52) 4 (2 players)
Logieuk bets $0.44, Button raises to $1.58, Logieuk raises to $4.83 (All-In), Button calls $0.20 (All-In)

River: ($4.08) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.08 | Rake: $0.20

Results:
Button had 7, 4, 5, Q (straight, eight high).
Logieuk had A, 5, A, J (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $3.88
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11-06-2010 , 05:58 PM
didnt do the math but I think so. His range is highly weighted towards straights
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11-06-2010 , 06:38 PM
Hey Sappie,

Yea looking at it now, i should of folded, guess still playing like NL player! Buts its near impossible to put laggy players on ranges, no matter what game is, at micros strength normally means the nuts.

HEM has me 43/57 dog on the turn.

maybe i should of called the turn raise rather then shoved? He did insta raise me.
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11-06-2010 , 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieuk
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($4.98)
BB ($1.91)
Hero ($2.36)
UTG+1 ($6.62)
CO ($5.67)
BTN ($3.69)

Dealt to Hero 8 T T J

Hero calls $0.02, fold, CO raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, fold, BB calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

FLOP ($0.33) 8 J 7

BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

TURN ($0.33) 8 J 7 A

BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN folds, BB calls $0.18

RIVER ($0.73) 8 J 7 A K

BB bets $0.70, Hero folds

BB wins $0.70

So wanted to call this think he had a straight, villans was 55/5 over 2k hands

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grrr at prem hand fail

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PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($2.16)
BB ($7.20)
UTG ($6.11)
UTG+1 ($9.61)
CO ($5.18)
BTN ($2.10)

Dealt to Hero K A A Q

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.16, fold, BTN calls $0.16

FLOP ($0.66) 2 9 5

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN bets $0.63, Hero raises to $1.96 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN calls $1.27 (AI)

TURN ($4.46) 2 9 5 K

RIVER ($4.46) 2 9 5 K 4

BTN shows 9 6 9 3
(Pre 36%, Flop 87.3%, Turn 95.0%)

Hero shows K A A Q
(Pre 64%, Flop 12.7%, Turn 5.0%)

BTN wins $4.24
Hand 1 is line is so weird I probably call and take a note is he has the Qhigh flush.

Hand 2, std, prefer a b/c after 3 betting but c/r works. unlucky
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11-07-2010 , 04:53 PM
This standard? I would of called a street if there were two hearts on the board.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($4.59)
MP ($0.88)
CO ($11.72)
Button ($2.12)
SB ($1.37)
Logieuk (BB) ($2.40)

Preflop: Logieuk is BB with K, K, J, A
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, Logieuk bets $0.08, MP calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.25) 7, 8, 10 (3 players)
Logieuk checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.24, Logieuk folds, 1 fold

Total pot: $0.25 | Rake: $0.01

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $0.24
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11-07-2010 , 05:51 PM
yeah completely standard multiway
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11-07-2010 , 06:41 PM
How important is your red line in omaha?
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11-08-2010 , 12:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHENGPOKER
How important is your red line in omaha?
Depends on who you ask. The one thing I can say for certain is the Green one being positive is wayyyyyyy more important


Edit: Some nits say eff it and their red line is negative but overall winners. Then some LAGgy players are super aggressive and have a positive one and are also winners. It just depends on how you want to play, no need to loose sleep over it.

Last edited by Sly_Fox; 11-08-2010 at 12:13 AM. Reason: content
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11-08-2010 , 09:49 AM
1.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($176)
BB ($14.55)
UTG ($113)
CO ($179)
Hero ($135)

Dealt to Hero T A A K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, SB raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $19, SB calls $13

FLOP ($39) 6 3 K

SB checks, Hero bets $30

4bet it PF and give away my hand, or play a small pot?


2.
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PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($85.30)
Hero ($204)
UTG ($90.15)
UTG+1 ($274)
CO ($243)
BTN ($474)

Dealt to Hero 7 A A K

UTG raises to $7, fold, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $42, UTG calls $35, CO calls $35, BTN calls $35, fold

FLOP ($175) 5 K T

Err... is this a mandatory jam flop?
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11-08-2010 , 10:33 AM
Why do you want to jam hand 2? Because you have Aces? Or because you have a K, making it unlikey that another player has KK in there hand?

Also, its likely that theres another A out there, you dont have a flush draw or straight draw really. Is it one of these bite your lip when you have to c/f?
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