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11-11-2024 , 08:09 PM

OmahaDonk

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1-2-5 plo. V came over from a broken table with 18-20K and has been very aggro, maybe 70/40, but seems competent. He is willing to gamble with short stacks and is good at getting value.

Relevant HH. The hand before hero limped on the btn with bad aces on Villain’s straddle. Flop was Ax8c3c (hero had dry Ac) and V bet hero raised V raised hero raised and 1700 went into a 40 dollar pot on the flop. Hero scooped.

This is the next hand, hero is eff stack with 3450.

Hero in HJ with QJ98ss no clubs.

Pre: 2 limps, Hero iso to 35, V in bb 3b to 120, limpers fold and hero calls

Flop (255) : J76r bdfd
V 250 hero calls

Turn (755) : 9cc
V bets 755

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11-11-2024 , 08:45 PM

oxie

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 199

I fold for the following reasons:
1. His 3 bet range is massive and it’s possible he’s connected more than your top 2.
2. He’s gonna barrel river and you’ll be in an even bigger jam and you have small investment currently.
3. There are very few rivers we love.
4. Most important reason: he’s so spewy that there will be way better spots and no need to risk it now. He’s got $17k and I’d be thinking about the best spots to ship ‘em my way. This ain’t it.

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11-12-2024 , 02:21 AM

TopPair2Pair

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if your super sure villain can play 70/40, then I like a raise here if we're playing poker.

However, with no reads, tilted, a few hands, fold.

Scenario 1, Raise, be prepared for a tough decision on river. 20% of time.
Scenario 2, Fold for an easy life and wait for more information. 80% of time.

What hands is he playing in position?
What hands oop?

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11-12-2024 , 08:24 AM

oxie

centurion

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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair

if your super sure villain can play 70/40, then I like a raise here if we're playing poker.

Can you explain the thinking here please.

We don’t have any post flop reads on V, so I feel this is a punt and hope even if he is so loose pre. Seems unnecessarily risky given overall dynamics and future EV vs V.

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11-12-2024 , 09:46 AM

TopPair2Pair

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sample size, and we should be staked, or have a bigger BRM balance then villain until we get a sample size. Do you know how wide 70/40 is?

Let the range converge. folding 80% of the time until range converges to something more reliable. But 20% have a little fund, I mean fun.

Last edited by TopPair2Pair; 11-12-2024 at 09:46 AM. Reason: infinite brolls plz

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11-12-2024 , 09:49 AM

The Standard Station

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Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 565

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

Im calling , maybe would jam if our stack was like 2.,5k to start hand , but V could be steaming his balls off and weve got top 2 and a holdem straight draw . F it

Im calling all rivers that arent a c, A , K, 7 or 6 imo. Maybe not a Q either as he could have AKKT AAKT etc

Last edited by The Standard Station; 11-12-2024 at 09:52 AM. Reason: added to it

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11-12-2024 , 12:54 PM

Javanewt

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I'm calling and evaluating river vs. this guy. What did he have in the other hand?

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11-12-2024 , 07:12 PM

OmahaDonk

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Originally Posted by Javanewt

I'm calling and evaluating river vs. this guy. What did he have in the other hand?

Set of 8s, no fd.

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11-12-2024 , 07:16 PM

wazz

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Think your hand is just too strong to fold and you can certainly have straights here when you flat so he can't just blast off the river, and if he does you maybe have a strong enough hand to call

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11-14-2024 , 10:17 AM

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Javanewt

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

Set of 8s, no fd.

For $1,700? LOL. I love him. What a fabulous outcome for bad aces

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11-15-2024 , 04:38 AM

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OmahaDonk

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I folded and he showed TT4r with Tc. Hours later he claimed he had no equity which is possible.

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11-15-2024 , 10:12 AM

#12

middlebridge

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

I folded and he showed TT4r with Tc. Hours later he claimed he had no equity which is possible.

I would think that he would show all four cards if he was bluffing but to be honest I'm often wrong about these things maybe in part because I almost never show myself.

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