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PLO50 HU 250bb deep 3bet pot turn spot with blockers+2pair+weak FD vs pot bet PLO50 HU 250bb deep 3bet pot turn spot with blockers+2pair+weak FD vs pot bet

01-15-2013 , 09:14 AM
he was aggresive, but fishy player: 3bet more than 60%, cbet flop: 70%, turn 44%, he ussually used pot size bet

what to do ott?

Hero (SB): $126.90 (253.8 bb)
BB: $176.15 (352.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 7 5 6
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9) 4 5 K (2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($27) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $27, Hero ???
PLO50 HU 250bb deep 3bet pot turn spot with blockers+2pair+weak FD vs pot bet Quote
01-15-2013 , 09:36 AM
If we were deeper I'd go for the obvious: almost pot sized raise OTT, 2/3 pot river on almost any river card (prob. check back spades and board pairing cards).

Seeing as we're shallow enough that it doesn't seem like he'll fold too often, I think I like calling turn and maneuvering OTR.
PLO50 HU 250bb deep 3bet pot turn spot with blockers+2pair+weak FD vs pot bet Quote
01-15-2013 , 09:50 AM
I'd ship. 2 pair might be good, blockers are nice, FD is nice.
PLO50 HU 250bb deep 3bet pot turn spot with blockers+2pair+weak FD vs pot bet Quote
01-15-2013 , 12:01 PM
Ship. Need to realize our equity.
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01-15-2013 , 12:03 PM
I would raise to 55-60 as it might allow us to bluff out lower straights now and maybe KK on river (lol) with the obvious barrel..

I don't necessarily want him folding some hands.
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01-15-2013 , 03:01 PM
jam turn

I seem to be posting that often lately, lol. Also tempted to raise flop, since he's likely to pick up all kinds of equity OTT. Yea, raise/ship flop looks. Only in bad shape vs top set
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01-15-2013 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProEvoStar
I'd ship. 2 pair might be good, blockers are nice, FD is nice.
never good when he calls, not saying shiping is bad, but not for the reason "2 pair might be good"
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01-15-2013 , 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
jam turn

I seem to be posting that often lately, lol. Also tempted to raise flop, since he's likely to pick up all kinds of equity OTT. Yea, raise/ship flop looks. Only in bad shape vs top set
don't you think we are too deep for ship otf?
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01-15-2013 , 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
never good when he calls, not saying shiping is bad, but not for the reason "2 pair might be good"
I'll elaborate,

What I meant by this is that either 2 pair is good or your FD is good. It's very unlikely that villain dominates our FD and already has us beat OTT. That means that in worst case scenario we still have close to 40% equity.

In some cases I definitely think our 2 pair is still good OTT. So I'd shove because I'd hate to make an incorrect fold OTR. I also find it very marginal to call down most rivers. And villain seems to be very aggro with barreling, so FE should be nice.

Basically I think by calling the turn we'll be making a lot of mistakes OTR. Almost on every river our hand is a bluffcatcher, even when our flush gets there. Only when we make a boat or a straight our hand is really strong.
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01-15-2013 , 04:10 PM
I don't like a raise too much against a fishy player, you might end up in a lot of crappy spots.

If however we decide to raise to 27, we still should fold to a ship against a reasonable range right? Would be a real disaster to gii OTF.
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01-15-2013 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaKo
don't you think we are too deep for ship otf?
well, only if he 3bets KKK exclusively. That's obv a concern with the fish, but it's a tiny portion of his range
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01-15-2013 , 04:47 PM
As played I think jam turn is best. Equity is just too good not to and it's not 100% hes pot calling it off here so we just win the pot a lot. If its deeper I flat to hero a bunch of rivers but this shallow I shove turn to avoid gross rivers and action killing rivers.
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